Istanbul audience members fight for shirt video - true-to-you.net

Apart from Genocide , Shirtacide....Turks...so much to answer for
 
He should make it more interesting. Throw in a pair of super-stretchy unrippable rubber speedos, or something. Let them fight for days over it.
 
Ach, I've seen worse at the Pallladium in Dallas when an audience member pulled out a knife and cut up Moz's shirt in a tightly crushed crowd.

Moz wears hard-to-tear shirts and gets all wet over the results, the sadist!
 
Has anyone come away with a fully-intact shirt after he thew it into the crowd?

Yes, people have.
I don't know anyone personally who has, but there are definitely posts on here, as well as on Twitter and on Facebook groups and Instagram, that show enough boasts of an entire Moz shirt to make us all jealous. :o
 
The fighting over shirts needs to stop. I witnessed a barbaric jerk at the Chicago HOB show (in 2003 or 2004, I can't remember which year, sorry) who screamed and shoved and elbowed others as he caught most of Morrissey's shirt. This guy had many tattoos, wore a sleeveless shirt, and a nearly (?) shaved head. He hurt several others during this tantrum--one being myself. To this day, I remember this hateful incident. I clearly observed that this guy had the shirt, and I made no effort to interfere. In fact, I stepped back as best I could. This creep still managed to elbow me and scream like a brat. It was awful, and the guy was much older than me. Truly disappointed at this lack of respect for others.
 
The fighting over shirts needs to stop. I witnessed a barbaric jerk at the Chicago HOB show (in 2003 or 2004, I can't remember which year, sorry) who screamed and shoved and elbowed others as he caught most of Morrissey's shirt. This guy had many tattoos, wore a sleeveless shirt, and a nearly (?) shaved head. He hurt several others during this tantrum--one being myself. To this day, I remember this hateful incident. I clearly observed that this guy had the shirt, and I made no effort to interfere. In fact, I stepped back as best I could. This creep still managed to elbow me and scream like a brat. It was awful, and the guy was much older than me. Truly disappointed at this lack of respect for others.

Wow...I was at that show, but not close enough to witness the scrum for his shirt. The one thing I remember about that show was that it seemed that the stage invader pissed off Moz so much that he cut his encore short. One song seemed like a let-down to me. I think the invader kind of knocked down Morrissey.
 
Wow...I was at that show, but not close enough to witness the scrum for his shirt. The one thing I remember about that show was that it seemed that the stage invader pissed off Moz so much that he cut his encore short. One song seemed like a let-down to me. I think the invader kind of knocked down Morrissey.


Well, I can't remember all the details, but this guy who clearly had the shirt became a real a**hole. He didn't have to injure others to prove any point. At least one of his tats was Morrissey's name. This show was the best Morrissey experience of my life, and this jerk ruined it for me.
 
The fighting over shirts needs to stop. I witnessed a barbaric jerk at the Chicago HOB show (in 2003 or 2004, I can't remember which year, sorry) who screamed and shoved and elbowed others as he caught most of Morrissey's shirt. This guy had many tattoos, wore a sleeveless shirt, and a nearly (?) shaved head. He hurt several others during this tantrum--one being myself. To this day, I remember this hateful incident. I clearly observed that this guy had the shirt, and I made no effort to interfere. In fact, I stepped back as best I could. This creep still managed to elbow me and scream like a brat. It was awful, and the guy was much older than me. Truly disappointed at this lack of respect for others.

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. The kitchen in this case being the pit of a Morrissey gig. He should have pepper sprayed you. lol
 
The fighting over shirts needs to stop. I witnessed a barbaric jerk at the Chicago HOB show (in 2003 or 2004, I can't remember which year, sorry) who screamed and shoved and elbowed others as he caught most of Morrissey's shirt. This guy had many tattoos, wore a sleeveless shirt, and a nearly (?) shaved head. He hurt several others during this tantrum--one being myself. To this day, I remember this hateful incident. I clearly observed that this guy had the shirt, and I made no effort to interfere. In fact, I stepped back as best I could. This creep still managed to elbow me and scream like a brat. It was awful, and the guy was much older than me. Truly disappointed at this lack of respect for others.

The cult 'fans' at his shows are just a resource to feed his narcissism and re-assure him that he's an A-List 'star' like Elvis, Tom Jones and Marc Bolan were in their prime, rather than a fading C-List celeb who has manufactured this absurd panto-theatrical trope since his career started. The fans in this clip are being civilised and patient as they wait for a snip of the 'holy garment' (rollseyes), but like you many of us have seen oafish or psychotic fans fighting for their entitlement to a piece of 'holy relic', even if it means snatching it from someone who got it first. And even if it means hurting frail or vulnerable people, or those who are do not understand that the 'pit' as his shows is a pantomime prop contrived by Morrissey. Walk back 10 rows from the front and the Audience are enjoying the gig, knowing that they are safe from the disturbed 'fans' by the stage, lost in their co-dependent Cult Guru/Worshipper pantomime with Morrissey. It was amusing 30 years ago, now it's just pathetic to see balding middle-age men grasping for a shirt thrown by another balding middle-age man. Not because they're old, but because they often act like thug teenagers having a scrap by the taxi-rank.

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I want to get as many pieces of morrisseys shirt as i can. I want to make a frankenshirt, i only got one piece now :(

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Had the chance to get to, but in My first Morrissey shirt i did not even bother the get on, thought i could not get a piece, but in my second show that english guy who works with Morrissey cut me some slack, unlike that Trinity women

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Or chastity what ever her name is

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But the people at the shirt toss can be mental, people you think are your friend elbow you in the face
 
Yes, people have.
I don't know anyone personally who has, but there are definitely posts on here, as well as on Twitter and on Facebook groups and Instagram, that show enough boasts of an entire Moz shirt to make us all jealous. :o


Loretta, I want to argue with you on this point. I have been to many Morrissey shows! I am not a regular, however! I always strive to be up in front--it is my passion, and it isn't an easy feat. I enjoy the "pit" very much. ...But we are all adults, aren't we? The violence at the Chicago HOB was unspeakable. The gentleman in question clearly had the shirt. He did NOT have to hurt others. Peace.
 
Same thing happened at the Bowery Ballroom in 2009. I took my keys out to cut the shirt so I could get a piece.....
 
Looking for pieces of Morrissey shirts for cheap, anyones sellling? Gonna make myself a franken shirt
 
Yes, people have.
I don't know anyone personally who has, but there are definitely posts on here, as well as on Twitter and on Facebook groups and Instagram, that show enough boasts of an entire Moz shirt to make us all jealous. :o

My apology, Loretta--I did not mean to reply to your post. I meant to reply to another person's. Sorry. Please disregard.

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If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. The kitchen in this case being the pit of a Morrissey gig. He should have pepper sprayed you. lol

Tammy, I want to argue with you on this point. I have been to many Morrissey shows! I am not a regular, however! I always strive to be up in front--it is my passion, and it isn't an easy feat. I enjoy the "pit" very much. ...But we are all adults, aren't we? The violence at the Chicago HOB was unspeakable. The gentleman in question clearly had the shirt. He did NOT have to hurt others. Peace.
 
The cult 'fans' at his shows are just a resource to feed his narcissism and re-assure him that he's an A-List 'star' like Elvis, Tom Jones and Marc Bolan were in their prime, rather than a fading C-List celeb who has manufactured this absurd panto-theatrical trope since his career started. The fans in this clip are being civilised and patient as they wait for a snip of the 'holy garment' (rollseyes), but like you many of us have seen oafish or psychotic fans fighting for their entitlement to a piece of 'holy relic', even if it means snatching it from someone who got it first. And even if it means hurting frail or vulnerable people, or those who are do not understand that the 'pit' as his shows is a pantomime prop contrived by Morrissey. Walk back 10 rows from the front and the Audience are enjoying the gig, knowing that they are safe from the disturbed 'fans' by the stage, lost in their co-dependent Cult Guru/Worshipper pantomime with Morrissey. It was amusing 30 years ago, now it's just pathetic to see balding middle-age men grasping for a shirt thrown by another balding middle-age man. Not because they're old, but because they often act like thug teenagers having a scrap by the taxi-rank.

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I politely disagree with your argument. There is definitely an energy at Morrissey's shows. Fans want a part of the shirt to keep a piece of that energy alive--symbolically, perhaps. Who wouldn't want to keep positive emotions flowing? Morrissey offers many feelings of hope and validation (on many different themes). You might want to criticize this--but, from a psychological perspective (perhaps), if this "works"--then it should be allowed, right?

As far as Morrissey's needs and desires are concerned, I can't judge him. He is definitely not a typical star at all. I do believe he suffered many years ago for many different reasons. His beliefs might not be popular, but I respect him for his conviction. His efforts towards animal rights are to be applauded. He is definitely not a narcissist. That being said, we all need some healthy and sane measure of narcissism (even if only on a very small level). Morrissey's fandom is devoted and unique and rare--very special to me.

My concern is that the shirt should not be an excuse to treat others poorly--as I have witnessed. I would love a shirt or a piece of it, but I am not going to scream, push, shove, hit, and elbow to get such a memento.

Lastly, Morrissey is inspiring! After many, many adult years as a devout Morrissey fan, I made my mind to "do" something with my fandom. I decided to return to school--graduate studies. I am pursuing a master's degree in English to study literature and eventually teach this inspiring subject. I am soon to graduate, and perhaps I can provide a small flicker of hope to a younger generation. All of this came from years of studying Morrissey's references and interests--as well as those of Natalie Merchant/10,000 Maniacs, R.E.M., and others.
 
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