Hey Jehne,
How you doing?
Hi Peter. Doing pretty well. How are you?
Interesting posts as usual. Can't see why TBT got his knickers in a twist. Should take a chill pill.
I think I just really rub him the wrong way. Maybe I am his 'Saddo?' Have you ever come across anyone like that? Someone you just really clash with in all ways? I don't think he is a bad person for saying what he said. I get it, actually. I still say he has some great qualities and is very intelligent.
Anyway, he lost me with his bit about black culture which has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
I can't speak for him. But I am pretty certain it has nothing to do with skin color but rather about the components of that subculture he finds distasteful e.g. the music, slang, attitudes, clothing, values, etc. So it isn't really racist, imo.
However, some of the things you have posted today do wrankle a little, which, of course maybe down to the bluntness of this medium.
That is what I have actually realized in the last few days. I tend to be very blunt when I write. I don't use qualifiers, and rarely even use pronouns, haha. I write as if I am stating facts even when I realize I am only expressing opinions. This style of writing is off-putting to many--especially coming from a woman. Women are supposed to be understanding, nurturing, accommodating. The soft places to fall. That just isn't me--online. But I think you'd be surprised at what a softie I am IRL. I am very sweet and tender and give great hugs. Not to say that my online presence is a persona. It is just a harder version of Jehne. A more black and white version.
Ofcourse it would be a nonsense to permit everything but to permit things that are consensual and non harming, why not? Surely we all believe that?
Also, I get the impression that you see things a little too black and white.
Not everything can be put into 'good' or 'bad' boxes.
Good things can be pursued in a bad way.
Describing things as bad or evil is often not particulary useful.
I certainly think most things are acceptable if they do not effect others negatively and are done with the consent of the parties involved. Thus any sexual act is OK by me if there is consent. Drugs, pot, should be legal. Period. Does it affect society any more than alcohol consumption does? I'd argue far less. I am much more liberal and tolerant than I may come across as. I do believe people should be able to think and say whatever they wish. Does not mean I have to like it or agree with it. At the same time, it is my right to try to suppress their ideas or words which cause harm to myself. And it is also my right to try to try change their opinion(s) to that of my own, through debate, persuasion. Coercion rarely works.
Also, this moral relavatism you mention. I have never seen it.
It only appears to exist in the minds of those on the right who wish to attack those that take a measured analytical approach to issues.
Just one example. Making exceptions for religious/ritual slaughter because some people think stunning an animal first is against their sky god's wishes is moral relativism. Does ritual slaughter impact anyone negatively? Yes, the poor animals who suffer needlessly because some primitive beliefs are being appeased under the banner of relativism/multiculturalism.
Please note, I am in no way attacking you. This is a discussion.
Your Friend,
Peterb
I don't feel attacked at all. Your honesty is much appreciated.
Jehne x
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I was kinda taken aback from TBT’s outburst as well but at the same time I thought it was funny because it came out of nowhere like a surprise volcanic eruption.
He is a very passionate and intense person. He loves and he hates deeply. He obviously really HATES me. I am not angry with him at all.