Has Morrissey coming out a racist resulted in more fans?

Nerak

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Why is she "deranged" ? Maybe because she's a lesbian?

In a way - it's ideological derangement & it evolved out of her feminism & gay rights activism.

If what you want is Nazi skinheads she's not the leader to lure them.

In fact - the far right recruited her hoping to lure in more feminists, gay people & vegans.

Doesn't seem to have worked - they mostly have milder types of the usual.
 

Nerak

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National Socialist Skinheads 🤔

I know little about her but I don't believe she's trying to recruit or promote "Nazi's". That term has been used to death in 2020

Either way, peoples assumptions of Morrissey's connection to her seems really overblown

No - they recruited her!

I don't really know what she thinks she's doing - one minute she's denouncing racism, the next she's saying Islam is incompatible with the West because Europe is biologically white, then she'll denounce racism again.

I don't think Morrissey has any real connection with her - he read/heard some stuff a couple of years ago & somehow got hold of that pin.

Central posted 1 video giving the impression she's an animal rights activist being harassed by the police & that's been it.

It's all so tortured & unnecessary.

But, plus ça change...
 
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Anony

Guest
No - they recruited her!

I don't really know what she thinks she's doing - one minute she's denouncing racism, the next she's saying Islam is incompatible with the West because Europe is biologically white, then she'll denounce racism again.

I don't think Morrissey has any real connection with her - he read/heard some stuff a couple of years ago & somehow got hold of that pin.

Central posted 1 video giving the impression she's an animal rights activist being harassed by the police & that's been it.

It's all so tortured & unnecessary.

But, plus ça change...
He announced his dismay at her losing the UKIP election in the autumn of 2017. He then posted his support for her (or For Britain) in April 2018 on his website. Then, a year later, he reinforced this by wearing the For Britain badge at multiple concerts, live TV shows etc.
I'm afraid it can't simply be dismissed as just a one-off impulsive gesture however much we'd like it to.
 

Nerak

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He announced his dismay at her losing the UKIP election in the autumn of 2017. He then posted his support for her (or For Britain) in April 2018 on his website. Then, a year later, he reinforced this by wearing the For Britain badge at multiple concerts, live TV shows etc.
I'm afraid it can't simply be dismissed as just a one-off impulsive gesture however much we'd like it to.

That is not a lot of support.

The fact you're having to list every incident & pretend it's multiple tells you how meagre it is.

Despite Labour's hellish factional in-fighting & racism scandal - I'm still a member, campaigned in every election & still wear my badge.

That's what happens when you care about a party & it's not a whim, a misreading of an issue or because the leader seemed nice.
 

Silent Reader

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That is not a lot of support.

The fact you're having to list every incident & pretend it's multiple tells you how meagre it is.

Despite Labour's hellish factional in-fighting & racism scandal - I'm still a member, campaigned in every election & still wear my badge.

That's what happens when you care about a party & it's not a whim, a misreading of an issue or because the leader seemed nice.
I don’t know how anyone could have fallen for Corbyn’s kindly old grandad act personally, or read that manifesto last year without feeling chilled to the bone...but hey.

And that debate last year where his glasses were falling off his face...

He makes Joe Biden look like Barak Obama in the statesman stakes. Thanks Christ he didn’t win, people think COVID is bad-it’s a picnic compared to what a Corbyn ‘govern’ment would have been.
 
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Stephen Hofmann

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Looking back it seems Morrissey has always been racist but was clever in hiding it. In recent years it became acceptable to be racist. Trump got elected, the British voted for Brexit and for an overtly racist government.
Add that to the cancerous circle Morrissey surrounds himself in and he thought the thunder had begun. His long held dream of skinhead Nazi's being his fan base was within his grasp.
He miscalculated and destroyed his reputation and legacy. Silly old man.

What complete BS.
 

Silent Reader

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I also notice all the lefties on here, so quick to condemn Morrissey, are suspiciously quiet about their fallen hero Corbyn.

In that instance, it’s ‘overblown’ or a ‘witch-hunt’.

As per the left, when it doesn’t fit the narrative, it’s conveniently ignored.
 

Silent Reader

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So outside of being anti- mass immigration and Islamic ideology what do you find offensive? I don't find the need to dismiss those things because I don't see anything wrong with those particular views
Because the leftie 'liberals' think we should let everyone in, no matter what they've done & they hate this country generally.

And anyone who disagrees is, of course, rrrrrrrrracist.

We know we're right, that's all that matters.🇬🇧
 
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Sami Pinarbasi Tick Tock

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Do you think Morrissey has gained more new fans than the amount of old fans lost since coming out as
racist?

I could see him being more acceptable to the horrid right wing, yes.

Along the lines of "that poof out the Smiths might be alright yknow"

But what else should you expect from Midlanders
 
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Nicholas John G

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So someone do-gooder snowflakes have chucked Morrissey. Those who have a problem with his views are not wanted. Goodbye! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! We don't need you! As Morrissey says Everyone prefers their own race. That isn't a racist or small-minded bigoted view. Let's be quite frank. That to everyone but the fragile woke is a perfectly normal stance.
 
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Nicholas John G

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Because the leftie 'liberals' think we should let everyone in, no matter what they've done & they hate this country generally.

And anyone who disagrees is, of course, rrrrrrrrracist.

We know we're right, that's all that matters.🇬🇧
Brexit is coming. No more low skilled workers can come here to use our NHS for free and give more votes to those that came here on migrant boats.
 
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Nicholas John G

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Nicholas John G, you need to sign up to this forum NOW. We need you! I mean that, i like a man talks common sense. (y) 🇬🇧
Dear Old Blighty is going to improve with Boris in charge. He will wipe the watermelon smiles off of their faces. If they think Britain has been hostile to them just wait until Pritti Patel sends the lot of them to Ascension Island. You ain't seen nothing yet!
We will soon be able to walk down Knightsbridge without having to wobble our heads when we talk.
 

Silent Reader

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Dear Old Blighty is going to improve with Boris in charge. He will wipe the watermelon smiles off of their faces. If they think Britain has been hostile to them just wait until Pritti Patel sends the lot of them to Ascension Island. You ain't seen nothing yet!
We will soon be able to walk down Knightsbridge without having to wobble our heads when we talk.
I wouldn't go that far....
 
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Nicholas John G

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I wouldn't go that far....
Borders bring order. Just look at Ireland. I can’t see how opposing Islam can be seen as racist. If this woke censorship isn't stopped then Britain will soon be under Sharia law with beheadings to those brave enough to speak sense. I wish Morrissey was only joking but as BMG has proven you get banned, cancelled, blacklisted (...Sorry is that seen as racist. Islam isn't even a race.) just for being as diverse as wanting England to be for indigenous English. In 2020 it’s suddenly illegal to be intelligent.

Morrissey is not far right. He is extremely right. Correct. Keep an open mind, do your own research, think for yourself. Listen to Morrissey and STOP WATCHING THE NEWS!

If we don't support Morrissey on this we will allow the lonely left to make England a third world country.
We are the last truly British people you'll ever know.
 

Verso

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Borders bring order. Just look at Ireland. I can’t see how opposing Islam can be seen as racist. If this woke censorship isn't stopped then Britain will soon be under Sharia law with beheadings to those brave enough to speak sense. I wish Morrissey was only joking but as BMG has proven you get banned, cancelled, blacklisted (...Sorry is that seen as racist. Islam isn't even a race.) just for being as diverse as wanting England to be for indigenous English. In 2020 it’s suddenly illegal to be intelligent.

Morrissey is not far right. He is extremely right. Correct. Keep an open mind, do your own research, think for yourself. Listen to Morrissey and STOP WATCHING THE NEWS!

If we don't support Morrissey on this we will allow the lonely left to make England a third world country.
We are the last truly British people you'll ever know.
Nothing about the completion (not termination) of Morrissey's BMG contract had anything to do with being racist.
 

Nerak

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Borders bring order. Just look at Ireland. I can’t see how opposing Islam can be seen as racist. If this woke censorship isn't stopped then Britain will soon be under Sharia law with beheadings to those brave enough to speak sense. I wish Morrissey was only joking but as BMG has proven you get banned, cancelled, blacklisted (...Sorry is that seen as racist. Islam isn't even a race.) just for being as diverse as wanting England to be for indigenous English. In 2020 it’s suddenly illegal to be intelligent.

Morrissey is not far right. He is extremely right. Correct. Keep an open mind, do your own research, think for yourself. Listen to Morrissey and STOP WATCHING THE NEWS!

If we don't support Morrissey on this we will allow the lonely left to make England a third world country.
We are the last truly British people you'll ever know.

Kent is going to get a border so what are you whining about?

I'm still waiting for The Kingdom of Strathclyde to return.
 

Silent Reader

On Timeout
Borders bring order. Just look at Ireland. I can’t see how opposing Islam can be seen as racist. If this woke censorship isn't stopped then Britain will soon be under Sharia law with beheadings to those brave enough to speak sense. I wish Morrissey was only joking but as BMG has proven you get banned, cancelled, blacklisted (...Sorry is that seen as racist. Islam isn't even a race.) just for being as diverse as wanting England to be for indigenous English. In 2020 it’s suddenly illegal to be intelligent.

Morrissey is not far right. He is extremely right. Correct. Keep an open mind, do your own research, think for yourself. Listen to Morrissey and STOP WATCHING THE NEWS!

If we don't support Morrissey on this we will allow the lonely left to make England a third world country.
We are the last truly British people you'll ever know.
I don’t know if you’re a wind up merchant on here, one of the usuals under a different name, but to be fair, I think you make some salient points. There is a lot of truth in what you say, like there was a lot of truth in what Enoch said.
 

Silent Reader

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Nothing about the completion (not termination) of Morrissey's BMG contract had anything to do with being racist.
If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

Do you work for BMG or something?

I mean, you are technically right, because he isn’t racist, but that’s not what the ‘see my signature’ crowd think, as we know...
 
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