Would it be easier to agree that Morrissey has been outsold by every artist on the planet & his career is entirely dead & then we can just discuss the ghost of Morrissey who gets hits in Scottish backwaters like a lost banshee?
Would it be easier to agree that Morrissey has been outsold by every artist on the planet & his career is entirely dead & then we can just discuss the ghost of Morrissey who gets hits in Scottish backwaters like a lost banshee?
His career isn't entirely dead though, I bought his last album and thought it was his best for a long time.
I thought you might be Mike Joyce still hoping for a reunion. Then you talk about travelling to England. Mike Joyce already lives in England in the Manchester area. A reunion will never happen there is way too much bad blood and too many years have passed.I know, I know...don't come at me. It just needs to happen. Screw the politics. Screw the drama. They need to grow the eff up. Stop whining and whinging. Play the damn music for the people! They are possibly the most inspirational band next to The Beatles. Yes, it's true. Moz needs to get his head out of his ass and the rest need to just get over it. Get back together and play the damn music. I'd travel to England just to see it.
Johnny Marr tried to launch a solo career around 2001. I don't know when exactly. Johnny Marr had a group called "Johnny Marr and The Healers" it never really went anywhere even though they had Ringo Starr's son Zak Starkey on drums. Now Johnny Marr never talks about The Healers it is like they never existed.The last time I might have wanted to see a Smiths reunion was probably around 2002, before the comeback. Johnny's solo career hadn't happened yet, Morrissey hadn't put a record out in many years and everyone still looked good. It's too late now.
I can have both.
Just not on the same stage. That dream has gone.
There isn't any chemistry between Marr & Morrissey anymore, no sense of urgency either, and they are both wise enough to realize that.
It's just been too long. Are you really hungry to see grey, middle-aged, podgy Smiths, wearing crap slogan T-shirts and trudging through Munich Air Disaster (Moz would crowbar his solo material into any 'reunion') in between the old stuff?
A single one-off 'appearance', a thawing of tensions between Johnny and Moz - that would be great but that's all I'd want to see. And the damage Moz has done to his career over the last 2 years has pretty much killed any possibility of that.
Electronic's debut record was better than at least 4 Morrissey records.
It’s interesting that comment about Marr not seeking out a new mad singer and it made me think did morrissey avoided finding a new wonder kid guitarist just because the last one had the power to pull the plug on all his mad plans
Absolutely. He also wants total control over output, to the extent of band members needing to sign (we presume) non-disclosure agreements.I've always thought that too. Moz knows that wunderkind musicians are quickly 'in demand', they're poached by other bands, they share the spotlight to some degree as well - he didn't want that to happen again so he chose mostly unknowns for his first solo band.
I think it is a situation that suits him (in terms of his ambitions as a solo artist) but also annoys him/embarrasses him at times, especially live. You can sometimes see it in his face and the way that he moves. This mortifying performance is pre-Tobias era and to me, he look like he's thinking "this is f***ing awful" all the way through.
No New Order record is less rewarding than "I Fell Down The Staircase" or whatever it's called.Let Electronic put out as many albums as Morrissey and see how well they do in regards to remaining at peak awesomeness with every record to their fans.
Personally I feel they had a couple good singles their albums are not so great, but I feel the same way about New order, great singles, but the albums are not so rewarding.
Respect and integrity is worth more than money in the bank. And by that metric, Morrissey lives in poverty.Morrissey doesn’t give a crap about a reunion, he’s a success, and his last album it’s up there with the best.
on the other hand, Johnny’s so-called solo career never even got off the ground Yes yes yes he sold some albums he did some shows etc. but that’s not really a true artistic success not really.
yeah I agree he’s a good guitarist and wrote some great songs back in the day I mean his time with the Smiths. Now Johnny really would benefit from a Smiths reunion.
Andy will be asked. Maybe.
Mike won’t be asked, he did it to
himself.
Except for the singles no new order record is actually listenableNo New Order record is less rewarding than "I Fell Down The Staircase" or whatever it's called.
Respect and integrity is worth more than money in the bank. And by that metric, Morrissey lives in poverty.