Honestly, The Smiths just need to play a show together

The.Truth. · Oct 25, 2020

Ketamine Sun said:
Except for the singles no new order record is actually listenable

Try Republic or Movement. They are very different but I think each one does what it does very well throughout. So far they've only had one record that I sometimes skip songs on, though. I can't say that about Morrissey.

gordyboy9 · Oct 25, 2020

what was it johnboy said,thank f*** the other one isnt here,and some people want M to share a stage with marr.

Anonymous · Oct 25, 2020

gordyboy9 said:
what was it johnboy said,thank f*** the other one isnt here,and some people want M to share a stage with marr.

Right, and Andy hates Moz's guts as well.

Amy · Oct 25, 2020

gordyboy9 said:
what was it johnboy said,thank f*** the other one isnt here,and some people want M to share a stage with marr.

That cattiness just highlights that Morrissey, even in his absence, is still and will always be the defining musical relationship of JM's life. Nobody in the crowd was sitting there thinking, "ooh, maybe the other one is Barney Sumner"... so in a way it was quite revealing.
Years ago, Moz compared Johnny to E.T (on stage) and was drowned out by booing so he quickly backtracked.

Ketamine Sun · Oct 26, 2020

Amy said:
I've always thought that too. Moz knows that wunderkind musicians are quickly 'in demand', they're poached by other bands, they share the spotlight to some degree as well - he didn't want that to happen again so he chose mostly unknowns for his first solo band.

I think it is a situation that suits him (in terms of his ambitions as a solo artist) but also annoys him/embarrasses him at times, especially live. You can sometimes see it in his face and the way that he moves. This mortifying performance is pre-Tobias era and to me, he looks like he's thinking "this is f***ing awful" all the way through.

The only thing really awful about this is the festival situation where there’s a lot of people there but they’re not all there just to see him and he picks up on that vibe.

The guitar isn’t great, he probably learned that song the night before the show, who knows.

Boz working hard though.

Nerak · Oct 26, 2020

Ketamine Sun said:
The only thing really awful about this is the festival situation where there’s a lot of people there but they’re not all there just to see him and he picks up on that vibe.

The guitar isn’t great, he probably learned that song the night before the show, who knows.

Boz working hard though.

It's unusual in a singer - actors are very much like that.

If there's a deathly quiet or hostile audience you'll always find them stricken in the green room. And then I'll pop in & tell them it's absolutely fine, the costumes are fantastic & their grandmother loves it.

Skylarker · Oct 26, 2020

With the exception of The Truth About Ruth and The Secret Of Music, I Am Not A Dog On A Chain is the best music Morrissey has put his name to in 30 years. I see no reason to reform The Smiths.

Verso · Oct 26, 2020

Skylarker said:
With the exception of The Truth About Ruth and The Secret Of Music, I Am Not A Dog On A Chain is the best music Morrissey has put his name to in 30 years. I see no reason to reform The Smiths.

A retarded opinion, but one of many for you.

Skylarker · Oct 26, 2020

Verso said:
A retarded opinion, but one of many for you.

Thanks!

Anonymous · Oct 26, 2020

Skylarker said:
With the exception of The Truth About Ruth and The Secret Of Music, I Am Not A Dog On A Chain is the best music Morrissey has put his name to in 30 years. I see no reason to reform The Smiths.

This is probably true, which is very sad. Agreed, let's not taint the Smiths with modern Moz.

gordyboy9 · Oct 26, 2020

Anonymous said:
This is probably true, which is very sad. Agreed, let's not taint the Smiths with modern Moz.

why is it sad,it shows that as he gets older he gets better.

Amy · Oct 26, 2020

Ketamine Sun said:
The only thing really awful about this is the festival situation where there’s a lot of people there but they’re not all there just to see him and he picks up on that vibe.

The guitar isn’t great, he probably learned that song the night before the show, who knows.

Boz working hard though.

He's been at loads of festivals, it's nothing new for him. And his vocals are great - just let down by the band.

Radis Noir · Oct 26, 2020

Amy said:
I've always thought that too. Moz knows that wunderkind musicians are quickly 'in demand', they're poached by other bands, they share the spotlight to some degree as well - he didn't want that to happen again so he chose mostly unknowns for his first solo band.

I think it is a situation that suits him (in terms of his ambitions as a solo artist) but also annoys him/embarrasses him at times, especially live. You can sometimes see it in his face and the way that he moves. This mortifying performance is pre-Tobias era and to me, he looks like he's thinking "this is f***ing awful" all the way through.

The problem with that performance is that they are trying to play a song on guitars in standard tuning that was written in open E.

Ketamine Sun · Oct 26, 2020

.....

Amy said:
He's been at loads of festivals, it's nothing new for him. And his vocals are great - just let down by the band.

I don’t see any evidence of that, how do you come to that conclusion ?

Maybe you’re let down by the band.

Amy · Oct 26, 2020

Ketamine Sun said:
.....

I don’t see any evidence of that, how do you come to that conclusion ?

Maybe you’re let down by the band.

Oh Ket, give up.

Ketamine Sun · Oct 26, 2020

Amy said:
Oh Ket, give up.

Why should I give up

you’re the one that has no evidence that Morrissey has a problem with the band in that video

Or just give up and admit it you’re wrong

Morrissey's left nut · Oct 26, 2020

Ketamine Sun said:
He is rich in all things beautiful especially spirit

Okay. You know I only pop in here to see who is still Mozpologizing, yeah? I'm afraid it's terminal, Ket.

Surface · Oct 26, 2020

Ketamine Sun said:
Why should I give up

you’re the one that has no evidence that Morrissey has a problem with the band in that video

Or just give up and admit it you’re wrong

Morrissey Glastonbury Festival 2004

Morrissey didn't win BBC6 Music listeners favourite Glastonbury performance from the past 40 years, he came 16th. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2010/06_june/24/glastonbury.shtml They did broadcast a few tracks from the festival, last night. Listen again, at approx 1hr...

www.morrissey-solo.com

A couple of posters on this site also thought he wasn’t great at Glastonbury that year.

Ketamine Sun · Oct 26, 2020

Surface said:
Morrissey Glastonbury Festival 2004

Morrissey didn't win BBC6 Music listeners favourite Glastonbury performance from the past 40 years, he came 16th. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2010/06_june/24/glastonbury.shtml They did broadcast a few tracks from the festival, last night. Listen again, at approx 1hr...

www.morrissey-solo.com

A couple of posters on this site also thought he wasn’t great at Glastonbury that year.

That’s not the point

even I agree that the guitarist doesn’t sound too hot

that’s obvious

but there’s nothing in the video that points to Morrissey being disappointed in the band

Ketamine Sun · Oct 26, 2020

Morrissey's left nut said:
Okay. You know I only pop in here to see who is still Mozpologizing, yeah? I'm afraid it's terminal, Ket.

no one thought that you actually came here for the music.

Anyway, I’m always happy to disappoint YOU.

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