Morrissey Central "I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD" (August 23, 2020)

I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

“Following a stroke, her recovery was remarkable.
She had three extensive head-to-toe examinations by the NHS who could find nothing amiss.
Four days following the third all-clear examination I was told that my mother had three weeks to live.
Nine days later she had withered and died without any attempt by the NHS to save her life.
Once the NHS waves you off with paracetamol, get ready to meet your maker.
The official cause of my mother’s death was not the trendy and unquestionable “covid” - but, instead, cancer of the gallbladder … which had gone undetected by the NHS during their three thorough investigations.
How I wish to all gods that my mother had expressed no faith in the NHS.
She might still be alive today.”

Morrissey
23 August 2020.

I DON'T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD - MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY - MORRISSEY CENTRAL - I DON'T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

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Media item:

• Daily Mail: "Former Smiths frontman blamed the NHS for his 82-year-old mother's death" - August 24, 2020

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

Is everyone quite sure that she wasn’t strangled in her very own bed, as she read?

Well, that’s ok. She was old and she would’ve does anyway.

Can someone ban this twat?

 

[Anonymous]

Kevin Prince, Shrewsbury, about 3 hours ago
He's not wrong though is he? The NHS is awful, bloated and needs to be replaced with a German or Dutch style health system. Speak out against the NHS and you are denounced as a heretic. It's a national religion, in fact, its's a cult! You don't see the Dutch or Swiss or Germans worshiping their far superior health systems!

Love this. This is so true. Well put.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

Oh. Oh. He’s not? Kindly give us your line-by-line spin then, wanker.

He said he said. It’s right here for you read. It’s in his own words.

You need to pony up or shut the f*** up, tart.

Hard anon. Takes courage that.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Yes because he has been in lockdown in Bowdon with family but you don’t really know since what date. That doesn’t affect his tax status either. It is still within limits to have been here that long and he isn’t here anymore.

You have no idea how long he has been in Manchester and whether he has been anywhere else. You are guessing.

It's a myth that all you have to do is stay out of the country for a certain amount of days.

If you're a UK citizen with significant ties to the country either through work or family, then you could be taxed as a resident.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Oh. Oh. He’s not? Kindly give us your line-by-line spin then, wanker.

He said he said. It’s right here for you read. It’s in his own words.

You need to pony up or shut the f*** up, tart.

It would be quicker if you could point out the line where he says the UK shouldn't have a public healthcare system.

 

[Anonymous]

People forget that they pay for something their entire lives that in the long run never works because they only help a bit with symptoms but no one is ever truly cured. Where I live the evidence is clear and former NHS supporters who for ages trusted them have now been helped in private clinics not least when it comes to eye surgery. The quality of the NHS is appalling and that's me being kind to them.

Rubbish and there will be many that disagree with you. I was cured by the NHS as was my mother.

The quality of the nhs is far better than what any private system could provide to the whole nation.

In the uk the doctor generally the doctor you will see on the nhs will be the same doctor you will see privately.

There aren’t really a set of private doctors and a set of nhs doctors. They tend to do both.

You will just get seen quicker, shorter waiting lists and get a private room rather than a ward.

 

[Mayfly]

OT {but it's been so long that í forget the original topic anyways} but in terms of tax matters, wasn't Beech Mount legally switched to his Mother's ownership to try to avoid The Drummer's grasp, sometime late '90s? í may be wrong, it's been awhile since í bothered with these things, but í am sure the legal team of Anonymous, Anonymous & Anonymous can chip in if í am.

That was the house that The Drummer attempted to turn Ms Dwyer out of, and claim as part of the court award {Jackie's too}. í wonder whether The Drummer has offered kindest whathaveyous...

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Beech Mount was his mother's property, but we all know that it was bought with Morrissey's money and at some point given to her. Did the property transfer happen at the time when Morrissey left to live in LA, away from this little drummer's terror, or earlier? No idea and no need to know it. His mother was surely lucky to live in such a beautiful house.

 

[hand in glove]

What blood tests? Cancer isn’t a virus or bacteria. There’s rarely a telltale blood marker of any kind. Usually symptoms make people go looking for it. Guessing gallbladder, like pancreatic cancer and ovarian cancer, isn’t noticed until it is too late.

A CDC would have shown a high white blood cell count and her liver count would have been elevated as well. If they had ordered a CT scan and examined her liver and gallbladder, they may have discovered the tumor before it was too late. It was already too late when she had a stroke, but you don't have gallbladder cancer without a history of symptoms that would eventually get worse over time. That's what I meant when I said, "on day one" as I'm sure this was sadly overlooked for quite some time.

 

[Anonymous]

We already live in a world where both systems exist side by side and we can choose. But socialism hates freedom of choice and has no confidence in the individual to handle money in a system where instead of tax you get to keep it and spend it when you need it. Most people feel this false sense of safety thinking the state will take care of them only to find out it doesn't. We pay insurance for our homes and cars and health so we could of course have a system where we pay for a bit more quality through insurance but most people happily give away their money to taxes and it is like paying for a car your entire life even when you no longer have it. The NHS don't have to be good or improve cause they get your money anyway.

But not everyone can choose. The choice is only available to those who have the money.

The number of people in the USA who can’t afford the insurance is insane, that leads to a wider rich poor divide and forces poor people in their place.

Children in poverty. How do you propose they pay for their healthcare? Prostitution? Stealing? Selling drugs?

The never ending cycle of born in poverty, stay in poverty.

 

[Anonymous]

I mostly share your analysis, but be careful. We don't know how much time elapsed between the 3 head-to-toe examinations, or how long his mother had to wait until her first examination. From the way he writes it, I don't think that was the problem, but still.

We also don't know if the outcome would have been different if they had detected the cancer after the first examination. But it was an aggressive cancer, so most likely it wasn't that visible then and anyway, the doctors were looking for other causes and perhaps overlooking it.

I understand his grief, his shock and all the "what if ..." questions. Years ago, I lost my oldest sister at a much younger age to an aggressive skin cancer which had developed internally. With survival chances near to zero, doctors also decided to stop all treatment. My parents went for a second opinion, but that didn't change the diagnosis unfortunately, and from thereon it all went downhill very rapidly. You're always left with questions unanswered. The medical profession isn't omniscient

It is also difficult not having the time to prepare for such a loss, if ever you can.

I just hope Morrissey wasn't alone with his mother during that short 9-day period.

Gallbladder cancer can be asymptomatic in someone for 15 years and even with early detection and I mean like 10yrs ago a woman with it in her 80s would not have had great prospects. The 5-10% survival rate is usually amongst under 50 year olds.

And they wouldn’t have scanned for it 10 years ago on the off chance if there were no symptoms.

 

[Anonymous]

NHS and NS is the same and one killed more people than the other. The answer may come as a surprise to most.

You do talk crap

 

[Anonymous]

On evidence of his public announcement there seems to be a reason to blame the NHS and he has been in court before when he refused to pay the band members and almost had his mother losing her home.
Things are complicated and the public only get half the story as always.

There is nothing in his announcement that points to any reason to blame the nhs.

 

[Anonymous]

you must be British... in civilised nations with adequate healthcare systems there is this thing called cancer prevention testing where exactly cancers get diagnosed early.

We have cancer prevention testing under the NHS. Why do you assume there isn’t?

There is no screening test for gallbladder cancer here or in any country.

Do your research.

Screening decisions are made on the analysis of cancer data and for gallbladder cancer the preventability stats are 2%.

 

[Anonymous]

The NHS has more money than it's ever had. FACT. And no, they don't need more foreign nurses that can barely understand English........they need to fund British nurses properly. And yes, in my dad's case, he should have had a nurse with him every single f***ing second. Now........c*** off.

You really are crap at stats aren’t you.

The number of patients the nhs is dealing with had risen significantly over recent years. We have a much bigger aging population. In a short amount of time the number of over 70s will have doubled. So of course the nhs has more money to try to deal with that.

This country doesn’t have the ability to train that many nurses in a short time frame. It isn’t feasible. We need trained nurses yesterday and more doctors. And of course they will come in from outside. It is the only way.

There are not enough nurses in any hospital to have a nurse in attendance at every bed no matter how much you want it.

 

[Anonymous]

Can someone ban this twat?

They should ban you too.

 

[Anonymous]

Hard anon. Takes courage that.

Like when you tell people to c*** off?

Hard takes courage

 

[Anonymous]

It's a myth that all you have to do is stay out of the country for a certain amount of days.

If you're a UK citizen with significant ties to the country either through work or family, then you could be taxed as a resident.

Nope. You been googling haven’t you.

Having family links here isn’t a reason the HMRC will reject a non resident status.

The main factor HMRC have used in recent cases is property links.

He doesn’t own any property here for that very reason.

He was a tax exile when he moved to LA and that hasn’t changed.

Are you seriously suggesting when he was living in LA the HMRC would have rejected his claim to exile because his mother lived here?

Maybe the Irish government will also demand tax off him because he has family there too?

Makes no difference if you have family such as parents or siblings. There is an element of concern if it was children but we know he has none of those and it would take a lot for HMRC to pursue him to reject a tax exile claim on the basis he had a mother here. Wouldn’t happen. Would collapse in court. All those people living in Oz and their parents being in the uk. No way would the HMRC reject their tax exile status.

 

[Anonymous]

A CDC would have shown a high white blood cell count and her liver count would have been elevated as well. If they had ordered a CT scan and examined her liver and gallbladder, they may have discovered the tumor before it was too late. It was already too late when she had a stroke, but you don't have gallbladder cancer without a history of symptoms that would eventually get worse over time. That's what I meant when I said, "on day one" as I'm sure this was sadly overlooked for quite some time.

That is not true. People live for 15 years with gallbladder cancer without any symptoms. It is one of the cancers that it almost always discovered too late.

Why would they have sent her for a scan years ago if there were no symptoms?

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Nope. You been googling haven’t you.

Having family links here isn’t a reason the HMRC will reject a non resident status.

The main factor HMRC have used in recent cases is property links.

He doesn’t own any property here for that very reason.

He was a tax exile when he moved to LA and that hasn’t changed.

Are you seriously suggesting when he was living in LA the HMRC would have rejected his claim to exile because his mother lived here?

Maybe the Irish government will also demand tax off him because he has family there too?

Makes no difference if you have family such as parents or siblings. There is an element of concern if it was children but we know he has none of those and it would take a lot for HMRC to pursue him to reject a tax exile claim on the basis he had a mother here. Wouldn’t happen. Would collapse in court. All those people living in Oz and their parents being in the uk. No way would the HMRC reject their tax exile status.

Do all the people living in Australia play gigs in the country they're still a citizen of & stay in their mother's house which was purchased with their money?

 

[Baby Bentley Brigade]

Rubbish and there will be many that disagree with you. I was cured by the NHS as was my mother.

The quality of the nhs is far better than what any private system could provide to the whole nation.

In the uk the doctor generally the doctor you will see on the nhs will be the same doctor you will see privately.

There aren’t really a set of private doctors and a set of nhs doctors. They tend to do both.

You will just get seen quicker, shorter waiting lists and get a private room rather than a ward.

Glad they cured something although toe nail fungus isn't exactly that hard to cure.