Morrissey Central "I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD" (August 23, 2020)

I DON’T KNOW WHY MY MOTHER IS DEAD

“Following a stroke, her recovery was remarkable.
She had three extensive head-to-toe examinations by the NHS who could find nothing amiss.
Four days following the third all-clear examination I was told that my mother had three weeks to live.
Nine days later she had withered and died without any attempt by the NHS to save her life.
Once the NHS waves you off with paracetamol, get ready to meet your maker.
The official cause of my mother’s death was not the trendy and unquestionable “covid” - but, instead, cancer of the gallbladder … which had gone undetected by the NHS during their three thorough investigations.
How I wish to all gods that my mother had expressed no faith in the NHS.
She might still be alive today.”

Morrissey
23 August 2020.


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You want to celebrate your mother's life? Do so. Tell us an amusing anecdote, for instance. Because right now you're associating her with a possibly crumbling health system and we get a mental picture of harassed docs in stained coats in derelict hospitals and I didn't know her, but I bet she would have wanted her name in the Daily Mail to be associated with something a bit more glamorous than weird-smelling deserted corridors.

My mum also went to hospital recently and she had a couple of stories when she came out. (The doctors found what was wrong and they were excited because it's rare so she got some attention). Like she woke up one day to find an unknown old(er) lady sitting next to her staring vacantly into space, and there was nobody around, so she had to play "guess what hospital room the zombie old lady belongs in?" in her nightie...she finds that quite amusing.

If you think you've been let down, that your mum wasn't looked after properly, how about (in time) turning that around? By giving back to the community, in her name maybe? I'm not saying building the Betty Dwyer Center for internet addicts, but you get my drift. Something that would have interested her. Mobile library vans for destitute areas? Something like that.

What is going to be hard too is that you won't have somebody to look after anymore. And that can't be good for the soul.
Maybe consider replacing that by what Russell (yes again) would call " being of service." ?

Well at least think about it mebbee for a while before saying no, and replying that if Anne Marie Watever had been running the country your mother would still be alive...

A lot of people are going to need help just to survive. Maybe now is the time to give back is all I'm saying.
 
Over 10,600 claims of negligence against the NHS, not counting those settled in mediation, EVERY year. Those are facts provided on the NHS website. A "late diagnosis of cancer" certainly sounds like negligence, and you or I are not qualified to say how it would end if she had been diagnosed earlier.

Absolute rubbish.

If somebody doesn't present to their GP or hospital with symptoms how could diagnosis been made earlier?? She was being treated for another condition and wouldn't have been showing signs of the cancer. Please try and do some reading on how a diagnosis is made. To have an earlier diagnosis, she would've needed to be showing signs at a far earlier stage to have survived.
 
I think the point actually made by the other poster was "if they don't like it here and they never pay tax but constantly criticise it then they can leave" as they would obviously prefer to leave surely?

When has Britain not been filled with people moaning about the state of it?

And no one knows what taxes he's paying & where he's paying them.
 
My mum passed away last year. Admitted to hospital with pneumonia and sepsis. Induced for 5 days and we were told her body was giving up (the organs were) and it was a case of pulling the tubes out and letting nature take its course....... next thing she is sat up in bed talking about wanting to go home!
She went to a care home for a week and then back home where my brother stayed with her for a week.
3 nights after my brother returned home she died. Autopsy said a blocked valve resulted in her not being able to breathe..... we questioned this asking why the valve was not noted on all of the xrays she had had the previous few weeks.
Doctor said it was not related and she could have died one day, a week, one month or one year later......

Did I agree with that? No. But. Neither did I think it was due in any part a malicious or negligent action on behalf of the NHS.
We just shrugged our shoulders and quietly got on with our mourning. I suggest Morrissey does the same thing too......
 
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You want to celebrate your mother's life? Do so. Tell us an amusing anecdote, for instance. Because right now you're associating her with a possibly crumbling health system and we get a mental picture of harassed docs in stained coats in derelict hospitals and I didn't know her, but I bet she would have wanted her name in the Daily Mail to be associated with something a bit more glamorous than weird-smelling deserted corridors.

My mum also went to hospital recently and she had a couple of stories when she came out. (The doctors found what was wrong and they were excited because it's rare so she got some attention). Like she woke up one day to find an unknown old(er) lady sitting next to her staring vacantly into space, and there was nobody around, so she had to play "guess what hospital room the zombie old lady belongs in?" in her nightie...she finds that quite amusing.

If you think you've been let down, that your mum wasn't looked after properly, how about (in time) turning that around? By giving back to the community, in her name maybe? I'm not saying building the Betty Dwyer Center for internet addicts, but you get my drift. Something that would have interested her. Mobile library vans for destitute areas? Something like that.

What is going to be hard too is that you won't have somebody to look after anymore. And that can't be good for the soul.
Maybe consider replacing that by what Russell (yes again) would call " being of service." ?

Well at least think about it mebbee for a while before saying no, and replying that if Anne Marie Watever had been running the country your mother would still be alive...

A lot of people are going to need help just to survive. Maybe now is the time to give back is all I'm saying.

Aye, Zombie old ladies would be a huge blog post improvement.
 
Doubt you had any sympathy to lose - that's purest "if they don't like it here, they can leave."
That’s not what I said at all. I’m quite happy to pay my taxes so that every resident of this country has free and fair access to health care. This isn’t America and we should feel thankful for that. I am not saying that the NHS doesn’t have major issues, but there isn’t a medical system anywhere in the world that doesn’t. Thousands of people every day will end up getting a cancer diagnosis, many of which will be untreatable, and they may have been completely healthy 3 to 6 months earlier. I take anything that comes out of Morrissey’s mouth with many, many grains of salt, and since we don’t have access to his mothers medical records I have no idea what the whole truth is, since he has proven himself to be dishonest on more than several occasions. The fact that he refuses to pay taxes that he owes in this country make him no more of a reliable source to me than Starbucks or Amazon, so his using the NHS as a scapegoat into his mother’s “needless” death is not necessarily bait I am going to automatically sink my teeth into. People suffer from health problems all of the time, where something completely unrelated might go undetected, but that doesn’t automatically mean that the entire nation’s healthcare system is complacent in that person’s inevitable death. But yes, I still stand by my original point that you don't gain my sympathy blaming the health system when you’re a tax dodger yourself.
 
Tbh, I think he's still at the wanting an explanation because it's too shocking to accept stage.

If there isn't an explanation then maybe it'll become a proper negligence thing.

who needs an explanation. It is obvious even to a school child. She became ill a matter of weeks ago and had tests which eventually diagnosed her with cancer and at that point it was untreatable. I am pretty sure they didn't wave her away with paracetemol. All terminal patients in palliative care receive strong pain relieve and care.

why did you invent meanings into something so obvious.
 
When has Britain not been filled with people moaning about the state of it?

And no one knows what taxes he's paying & where he's paying them.
There is a reason he doesn’t own any property here...
 
When has Britain not been filled with people moaning about the state of it?

And no one knows what taxes he's paying & where he's paying them.

yes they do know. Why would no one know? He doesn't have a permanent registered address in the UK with HMRC.
 
you were probably just upset because the doctor or nurse attending wasn't white

I was upset when the black nurse expected me to get my dad's urine in a little kidney shaped bowl, instead of her. I was also upset when I constantly phoned a hospital miles from me trying to get updates and nobody ever answered.
 
NHS = No Healthcare Socialism

Hilarious.

I'm not a socialist myself. I don't expect the government to run clothes shops, bookshops or record stores or supply me with tax subsidised booze and curries. But I'd rather take my chances with "a free at the point of delivery" health service than one where the bottom line is profits/share price.
 
It’s awful to read this. What a sad turn of events for him. 💔 It’s so understandable to want to assign blame for such a quick death; to make some sense of the chaos.
My father-in-law passed away from esophageal cancer many years ago. He died about three months after being diagnosed. He had been given a year to live but he had underlying complications that caused him to die much faster. He was only 64. My mother-in-law was so consumed with guilt and the “what ifs” for a long while after his death. But ultimately she realized she made the best decisions she could under the terrible circumstances, and there’s no way to guarantee there would have been any better or different outcome.
I do hope in time Morrissey can find that same peace.

One major difference- we are in the USA. My father-in-law had private insurance through his employer and even though he’d paid insurance premiums for years, he racked up well over $25,000 in additional, “out of pocket” medical debt while fighting cancer those three months.
 
Hilarious.

I'm not a socialist myself. I don't expect the government to run clothes shops, bookshops or record stores or supply me with tax subsidised booze and curries. But I'd rather take my chances with "a free at the point of delivery" health service than one where the bottom line is profits/share price.
Each to his own but we all know the end result all too well. People who defend the NHS do so not because they know it is better but because they want to defend a political system that they personally gain something from. Meanwhile people end up disabled and dead as a result.
 
That’s not what I said at all. I’m quite happy to pay my taxes so that every resident of this country has free and fair access to health care. This isn’t America and we should feel thankful for that. I am not saying that the NHS doesn’t have major issues, but there isn’t a medical system anywhere in the world that doesn’t. Thousands of people every day will end up getting a cancer diagnosis, many of which will be untreatable, and they may have been completely healthy 3 to 6 months earlier. I take anything that comes out of Morrissey’s mouth with many, many grains of salt, and since we don’t have access to his mothers medical records I have no idea what the whole truth is, since he has proven himself to be dishonest on more than several occasions. The fact that he refuses to pay taxes that he owes in this country make him no more of a reliable source to me than Starbucks or Amazon, so his using the NHS as a scapegoat into his mother’s “needless” death is not necessarily bait I am going to automatically sink my teeth into. People suffer from health problems all of the time, where something completely unrelated might go undetected, but that doesn’t automatically mean that the entire nation’s healthcare system is complacent in that person’s inevitable death. But yes, I still stand by my original point that you don't gain my sympathy blaming the health system when you’re a tax dodger yourself.

You don't know his tax status. And nothing has been proven.
 
Seems to beg the question “Why would a multimillionaire send his mum for dodgy public healthcare?”
Because people f***ing prayed!
If God doesn't answer the prayers it doesn't matter who gives you healthcare.

Sarcasm aside, Morrissey has spread enough bullshit and lies over the past couple years where his stories don't match what evidence shows really happened that I don't know how much I believe his account of this. An example would be how he said he was misquoted by the German magazine but when they released the full audio there was nothing in print that he didn't say and none of the context was changed.

I feel bad he lost his most important loved-one and as humans we are prone to blame others when we are suffering. This appears to me as him venting. It is possible they completely missed it but I find it unlikely they didn't do any blood tests and notice the numbers being wrong on white/red blood cell counts being high/low unless she was asymptomatic and they were only looking for clots.
 
Because people f***ing prayed!
If God doesn't answer the prayers it doesn't matter who gives you healthcare.

Sarcasm aside, Morrissey has spread enough bullshit and lies over the past couple years where his stories don't match what evidence shows really happened that I don't know how much I believe his account of this. An example would be how he said he was misquoted by the German magazine but when they released the full audio there was nothing in print that he didn't say and none of the context was changed.

I feel bad he lost his most important loved-one and as humans we are prone to blame others when we are suffering. This appears to me as him venting. It is possible they completely missed it but I find it unlikely they didn't do any blood tests and notice the numbers being wrong on white/red blood cell counts being high/low unless she was asymptomatic and they were only looking for clots.

Der Spiegel did change the context - they made it seem like direct snappy answers to direct questions. Instead of the rambling conversation it was. Just like this thread has gone from Morrissey wishing his Mother had less faith in the NHS to implying he wants it abolished.
 
Because people f***ing prayed!
If God doesn't answer the prayers it doesn't matter who gives you healthcare.

Sarcasm aside, Morrissey has spread enough bullshit and lies over the past couple years where his stories don't match what evidence shows really happened that I don't know how much I believe his account of this. An example would be how he said he was misquoted by the German magazine but when they released the full audio there was nothing in print that he didn't say and none of the context was changed.
Of all the unbelievably idiotic, foolish and deeply unpleasant things he's done in the last 5 years (and the list is endless) that must count as number one. Incredible to think there are people round here who are so sycophantic and delusional, they will still try to put a 'it wasn't Morrisey's fault' spin on even that example.
 

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