You should read Worm, Jones and Danny's posts who are very good at expressing their thoughts which you can trace from their user accounts.
How is it obvious? When was the baby sent back to Malawi, can you tell me? He never liked Madonna, he finds any excuse to have a go at her, and that's what I find rather pathetic. It just annoys me the way he smirks to himself after he blurts out one of these bizarre comments, as if to say "Oh, I'm so brave and heroic for insulting Madonna......and they all agree with me!!". Well OF COURSE they would, you coward!
And as for chasing causes (or using them, rather):
Stating one the reasons why his single "The Youngest Was the Most Loved" should have done very well in the charts:
"enormous tabloid coverage of my animal rights comments"
On dropping your ethics for shoes:
"I find shoes difficult to be ethical about - one just can't seem to avoid leather. One is trapped, ultimately."
It just seems like, most of the time, he hasn't a damn clue what he's talking about, I mean anyone that came out with this (about the Queen):
"I think she's the only remotely acceptable member of the royal family, and I think that if this country has to have a royal family, then it should have her and nobody else"
I'd love to know how that would work........
Not the Madonna thing again. He made a remark that was borderline racist, and about something that is none of his business to comment on at all.
If he wants to be mad at Madonna for wearing fur that's great. Don't talk about people's "African child". That's very poor taste at best.
No I don't think he meant it the way it sounded but it was a terrible thing to say. Talking about skinning a child? This is supposed to be stage banter?
I don't know what more she would have to do to prove to anyone that she is committed than to raise a child and make this issue a part of her life. However, as much as anyone might dislike her music or her public persona, she doesn't owe it to anyone to explain or prove why she does anything.
On the other hand, I like Morrissey's political commentary. Who else says that we should nuke China. It's refreshing.
Who else endorses a presidential candidate because they have a nice voice?
I think most of his views are basically there to entertain, through being "outrageous"
There was nothing racist about his comment. To try and make something of the colour of the child's skin as if that somehow makes it a racist comment is pretty low. He wasn't saying Madonna SHOULD make the child into a coat.
If you understand where Morrissey is coming from it was a perfectly logical point. Madonna wore a coat made from 100 animals. To Morrissey this is on a par with skinning a child and making it into a coat. He believes both are as morally wrong as each other. He also believes she picks up good causes the way she wears the latest fashion, and adopting a poor boy from an African country is just a symptom of this.
Myself, I don't agree with him on killing animals and children being equivalent, but I understand that with his views it makes logical sense. There is nothing inconsistent or badly thought out about it.
And there is nothing weird about that comment on the Queen either. Most people in Britain would completely agree with him. There are too many royal hangers on having an easy life just because they were born into her family.
yeah...
i was walking on 56th (or 65th? Whichever goes through Central Park!) and at a red light, I saw Morrissey in the back of a limousine just a few feet away from me. I stopped and stared in disbelief. It was crazy.
There was nothing racist about his comment. To try and make something of the colour of the child's skin as if that somehow makes it a racist comment is pretty low. He wasn't saying Madonna SHOULD make the child into a coat.
If you understand where Morrissey is coming from it was a perfectly logical point. Madonna wore a coat made from 100 animals. To Morrissey this is on a par with skinning a child and making it into a coat. He believes both are as morally wrong as each other. He also believes she picks up good causes the way she wears the latest fashion, and adopting a poor boy from an African country is just a symptom of this.
Myself, I don't agree with him on killing animals and children being equivalent, but I understand that with his views it makes logical sense. There is nothing inconsistent or badly thought out about it.
And there is nothing weird about that comment on the Queen either. Most people in Britain would completely agree with him. There are too many royal hangers on having an easy life just because they were born into her family.
Hear, hear!I would make him happier, able to love and be loved... I'd change him so he could fully enjoy his life.
If that means not having his music anymore... whatever. I love him enough that I wish him joy.
How Pollyanna is that for ya?
I would make him happier, able to love and be loved... I'd change him so he could fully enjoy his life.
If that means not having his music anymore... whatever. I love him enough that I wish him joy.
How Pollyanna is that for ya?
Hello Scarlet, nice to see you here!
I said that I did not think it was racist, but that it sounded that way. Why is the African child mentioned? If children are equivalent to animals in his logic, then the African child must be equivalent to Madonna's other two children?
Here's the thing. With the history of African people being brought to America as slaves, any comment that distinguishes the African child from her American or British (Venezuelan?) children sounds like racism. Although I don't believe Africans were skinned they were treated as property. It's Nazis and serial killers that skin people to make them into lampshades and things, another pleasant association he touched upon.
No, I don't think he is a Nazi or a serial killer either. (He was always quiet though, and kept to himself...)
The point? Don't talk about people's children. It's not smart or logical. It's none of his business and the fact that he has hated Madonna since the 80's and would talk about her children as if he can see why she would adopt one doesn't make me applaud him. We talked about this before. Madonna had just headlined that worldwide concert, name forgotten now, and was in the media more than usual. Morrissey had just met with PETA, who I support, but who do have a groupie fixation with celebrities.
Madonna wears fur. Madonna was in the news. How can PETA capitalize on that? That's what I think happened. I don't think it was some stupid spontaneous thing he said. I think it was a planned stupid thing to say.
Hate Madonna. Don't talk about her kids.
You've obviously missed the point he was trying to make. The African child was mentioned because he was making a point about her picking the child as an accessory, rather treating him like a real human being. In the same way as she treats all the other causes she picks up. The point would not have been made if he'd talked about one of her real children.
Actually, I thought the point he was trying to make was not to do with the children, really, but to do with her wearing fur. That she is so heartless she would skin a living being to make a coat (be it child or animal, which Morrissey thinks to be equivalent).
At any rate, it was not a good way to make a point about Madonna wearing fur, or adopting children, or any other thing. I find it distasteful, but I would forgive it somewhat if it was even a valid way to make an argument. But I don't think it was.
--jeniphir
I forgot. I tend to forgive Moz everything, but... this "romance of crime" thing... Those of us who've lost someone to a crime don't feel too romantic about it.