Morrissey and SER driving at high speed in wrong direction according to police - La Repubblica

Hey just so you know, here is the police version from the italian newspaper "La Repubblica":

Roma, Morrissey litiga col poliziotto in via del Corso. “Minacce e urla” - La Repubblica
"Poteva uccidermi - accusa la rockstar - impugnava una pistola. La replica della questura: "E' arrivato a forte velocità contromano"

di FEDERICA ANGELI

They claim Sam was driving on the wrong sense at "full speed" and that they stopped him - apparently scared for the threat of a car driving at full speed in the wrong direction - to ask for his documents first, and then Morrissey's.
The article continues:Morrissey was asked four times for a document, but instead of telling them he left the wallet in the hotel he told them he did not do anything and did not had to deliver his document.
Than Sam proceeded to take a photo of they guy (who in the meantime googled Morrissey and realised who he was) and told him "you're going to be famous".
Apparently, both the policeman (whose photo was published) and the italian police want to sue Morrissey, the articles concludes.
The officer claim he never pointed the gun.

Just translating, guys.

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Adding the police statement (from a newspaper) I just found

«The car was proceding from Via della Frezza on the wrong direction, tuesday late afternoon, and came into a very crowded (because of the sale week shopping) via del corso. The agents on the "nibbio" motorbikes, who are regularly patrolling the historical center because of counterterrorism measures, did not hesitate to stop the car and ask the people on board for their id». According to the Questura after the first check «the policeman issued the ticket to the driver, who admitted his responsibility - according to the violations commited. But the other person - in other words the singer (exactly like this in the police memo - hilarious :)) - has been hostile since the beginning: an english citizen, he insisted saying he could not be forced to produce his ID or state his identity because he commited no felony, and was very surprised he wasn't recognised by the policemen. After some persistence the agents, who spoke english, allowed the person to call the hotel twice, thus learning the man's identity in order to run further checks even in the absence of an ID. During the checks the artist, bothered, shoot some pictures to the policeman threatening “you will become famous”».

(I don't know if the "artist" at the end is supposed to be morrissey or sam)

Sorry for the translation, but police statements are written in a strange funny language


Update:
SER has just written in his facebook page (comment in the same photo post) it was not him driving the car and he was not in italy at the moment. What the hell?

This is getting more and more ridicolous.

Sam Esty Rayner Photography:

"The Italian newspapers state, on behalf of Roma Polizia, that the driver of the car was Sam Esty Rayner.

Sam was not the driver; was not in the car; was not in Italy on the date of the incident.
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Scan of print edition from Betta:




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Anonymous

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I don't think he'll leave rome so I think that if they're recording it will go on. I also don't think they'll sue. If the officer had real reason to think morrissey broke a law and was so angry he would have arrested him and not let him walk away but most likely didn't have solid grounds to do so. Sam was obviously required to show his is if stopped for a traffic violation but are passengers. What would be the grounds to ask the passengers. Sounds like morrissey was his usual defiant self and the officer got mad at being defied in public and created a scene. Unless morrissey was shouting I imagine it the cops actions that drew the crowds attention. Still be nice to see a video though and it's weird that one hasn't popped up. Maybe there are different laws about posting videos of police there I don't know. I'll say this though, he's running out of country's to not play in. Canada Mexico and now Italy.
 
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Anonymous

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Laugh out loud :rofl:

He'll be telling us he's got cancer next o_O
What a pair of [email protected] they are.

If I may I would like to quote Judge John Weeks description of our Steven

" DEVIOUS, TRUCULENT and UNRELIABLE "
Nothing has changed:tiphat:
#We:heartssuit:Rome
#We:heartssuit:Barone Raffaele

Benny-the-British-Butcher :greatbritain::knife:
 

vegan.cro

Banned
Ehm.... Please read this
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/country/italy.html

Great policeman!

Art. 651
Anyone, who is required by a public official in the exercise of his duties (1) refuses to give any indication of his personal identity, status, or other personal qualities (2) (3), shall be punished with the arrest until A month or a fine of up to two hundred and fifty euros.

Considering Tourism in Italy --->>
Not to have papers is not crime after your identity is determined ("...or other personal qualities..."); Morrissey's identity was determined by physical witness (Sam) and then by the police officer himself (via google). End of story. Morrissey didn't do any felony.
 
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Morrissey, the delusion of omnipotence.
But what do you think, if he went around for the City of London at full speed in the midst of people, would the English cops just smile and apologize for stopping him? But please, with the running time, you just have to thank him for not pulling him down from the car with the strength and slamming to the ground without much compliments. Try doing the same thing in the United States or France. One thing we are in agreement with and happy together will go elsewhere to make the star. Luckily.
 
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boy racer fail

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He's got too many girlfriends
He thinks he owns this city
He overspeeds and he never gets pulled over...
 
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Considering Tourism in Italy --->>
Not to have papers is not crime after your identity is determined ("...or other personal qualities..."); Morrissey's identity was determined by physical witness (Sam) and then by the police officer himself (via google). And of story. Morrissey didn't do any felony.

It also says asked by an officer in the exercise of his duties. Sam was stopped and responsible for the traffic violation not morrissey. What did morrissey do to be asked to identify himself
 

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Considering Tourism in Italy --->>
Not to have papers is not crime after your identity is determined ("...or other personal qualities..."); Morrissey's identity was determined by physical witness (Sam) and then by the police officer himself (via google). And of story. Morrissey didn't do any felony.

If he refused to produce his ID, that actually is a crime. If the officer was eventually able to identify him anyway through Wikipeida or whatever, then he may have decided not to pursue the matter, and that could have been the end of the episode. The outstanding problem for Morrissey and Sam is the Facebook post and the interview with Rolling Stone, which they may still be pursued over.
 

vegan.cro

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Morrissey, the delusion of omnipotence.
But what do you think, if he went around for the City of London at full speed in the midst of people, would the English cops just smile and apologize for stopping him? But please, with the running time, you just have to thank him for not pulling him down from the car with the strength and slamming to the ground without much compliments. Try doing the same thing in the United States or France. One thing we are in agreement with and happy together will go elsewhere to make the star. Luckily.

morrissey didn't drive the car. check your facts IP Hash: 43a72ef136 chap.
 

SuedeMoz

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tbf, all Sam has done wrong is go along with his uncle's bullshitting. OK, driving on the wrong side of the road is technically wrong, but it happens when English people are driving abroad.

Yes, and it's also extremely dangerous for everyone in the road. Of course the police are going to pull someone over doing this and at the very least make sure they are not impaired. Granted in the US, only the driver would have been asked for ID.
 

vegan.cro

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If he refused to produce his ID, that actually is a crime. If the officer was eventually able to identify him anyway through Wikipeida or whatever, then he may have decided not to pursue the matter, and that could have been the end of the episode. The outstanding problem for Morrissey and Sam is the Facebook post and the interview with Rolling Stone, which they may still be pursued over.

"If the officer was eventually able to identify him anyway through Wikipeida or whatever, then he may have decided not to pursue the matter, and that could have been the end of the episode."
The end of the story.
"The outstanding problem for Morrissey and Sam is the Facebook post and the interview with Rolling Stone, which they may still be pursued over."
This story probably will not have start.
 

SuedeMoz

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Maybe that's why the Morrissey camp did not release any video ... it doesn't support the narrative they're selling.
 

vegan.cro

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It also says asked by an officer in the exercise of his duties. Sam was stopped and responsible for the traffic violation not morrissey. What did morrissey do to be asked to identify himself

I agree with you, dear friend IP Hash: 67148f962f
 

hand in glove

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Well at first there was no car mentioned as Morrissey was reported to have "walked away" in the first story posted. This is all quite bizarre, really.
 

SuedeMoz

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Maybe it went down something like this:

And the police - they actually know me
They said :

"You're just another person in the world
You're just another fool with radical views
You're just another who has maddening views
You want to turn it on its head
By staying in bed !"
 

Quando quando quando

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Check out @breakingnewsit's Tweet:

Thanks for sharing.
But WTF is this? :squiffy:
Bill Gates reprimands Moz?!
Trending in Italy?
Now he will respond to that!
Or not? :confused:
 

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