Morrissey statement on Manchester Attack - Morrissey Official Facebook

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Celebrating my birthday in Manchester as news of the Manchester Arena bomb broke. The anger is monumental.
For what reason will this ever stop?

Theresa May says such attacks "will not break us", but her own life is lived in a bullet-proof bubble, and she evidently does not need to identify any young people today in Manchester morgues. Also, "will not break us" means that the tragedy will not break her, or her policies on immigration. The young people of Manchester are already broken - thanks all the same, Theresa. Sadiq Khan says "London is united with Manchester", but he does not condemn Islamic State - who have claimed responsibility for the bomb. The Queen receives absurd praise for her 'strong words' against the attack, yet she does not cancel today's garden party at Buckingham Palace - for which no criticism is allowed in the Britain of free press. Manchester mayor Andy Burnham says the attack is the work of an "extremist". An extreme what? An extreme rabbit?
In modern Britain everyone seems petrified to officially say what we all say in private. Politicians tell us they are unafraid, but they are never the victims. How easy to be unafraid when one is protected from the line of fire. The people have no such protections.

Morrissey
23 May 2017.


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Herpes Harmonica

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Sadiq Khan has lost the plot with his latest comment after the London attack last night. It is as if his latest comment justifies what Moz said about him.
 

docinwestchester

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f***ing brilliant that Liam Gallagher made the effort to play at the One Love Manchester gig


He was great!

Moz should have been there.
 
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Herpes Harmonica

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Are you being satirical or are you really thick?
As serious as cancer. He needs a really good adviser or a new one.

Manchester can be very proud of itself tonight after that amazing gig. A pleasure to have had my best memories in life in that amazing city.

Even Coldplay did well and singing a bit of the James tune "sit down next to me" was pure class. Liam is the hero and Noel the villain now. Those two always take turns.
 

fuckfase

Just a guy...
Yay! What I've always suspected, especially over the past decade: Morrissey has grown up.

Bravo, sir. No more delusion through the eyes or heart of a naive teenager.

He's not bashing ethnicity. He's not excluding love. He's condemning a very hateful, dangerous culture.

Oh? What now? I'm a troll? Good luck, England.
 

Sidnettle

Death to Racists
As serious as cancer. He needs a really good adviser or a new one.

Manchester can be very proud of itself tonight after that amazing gig. A pleasure to have had my best memories in life in that amazing city.

Even Coldplay did well and singing a bit of the James tune "sit down next to me" was pure class. Liam is the hero and Noel the villain now. Those two always take turns.

Where was Morrissey?
 
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Anonymous

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Morrissey was dead on. Perhaps now that there are more dead bodies courtesy of this scourge. Something proper will be done about it.

http://time.com/4804640/london-attack-theresa-may-speech-transcript-full/

"Last night, our country fell victim to a brutal terrorist attack once again. As a result I have just chaired a meeting of the Government's emergency committee, and I want to update you with the latest information about the attack.

Shortly before 10 past 10 yesterday evening, the Metropolitan Police received reports that a white van had struck pedestrians on London Bridge. It continued to drive from London Bridge to Borough Market, where three terrorists left the van and attacked innocent and unarmed civilians with blades and knives.

All three were wearing what appeared to be explosive vests, but the police have established that this clothing was fake and worn only to spread panic and fear.

As so often in such serious situations, the police responded with great courage and great speed. Armed offices from the Metropolitan Police and the City of London Police arrived at Borough Market within moments and shot and killed the three suspects.

The terrorists were confronted and shot by armed officers within eight minutes of the police receiving the first emergency call.

Seven people have died as a result of the attack, in addition to the three suspects shot dead by the police. Forty-eight people are being treated in several hospitals across London. Many have life-threatening conditions.

On behalf of the people of London and on behalf of the whole country, I want to thank and pay tribute to the professionalism and bravery of the police and the emergency services, and the courage of members of the public who defended themselves and others from the attackers. And our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and with their friends, families and loved ones.

This is, as we all know, the third terrorist attack Britain has experienced in the last three months. In March a similar attack took place just around the corner on Westminster Bridge.

Two weeks ago the Manchester Arena was attacked by a suicide bomber and now London has been struck once more.

And at the same time the security and intelligence agencies and police have disrupted five credible plots since the Westminster attack in March.

In terms of their planning and execution, the recent attacks are not connected but we believe we are experiencing a new trend in the threat we face.

As terrorism breeds terrorism and perpetrators are inspired to attack, not only on the basis of carefully constructed plots after years of planning and training, and not even as lone attackers radicalised online, but by copying one another and often using the crudest of means of attack.

We cannot and must not pretend that things can continue as they are. Things need to change and they need to change in four important ways.

First, while the recent attacks are not connected by common networks, they are connected in one important sense. They are bound together by the single evil ideology of Islamist extremism that preaches hatred, sows division and promotes sectarianism.

It is an ideology that claims our Western values of freedom, democracy and human rights are incompatible with the religion of Islam. It is an ideology that is a perversion of Islam and a perversion of the truth.

Defeating this ideology is one of the great challenges of our time, but it cannot be defeated by military intervention alone. It will not be defeated by the maintenance of a permanent defensive counter-terrorism operation, however skillful its leaders and practitioners.

It will only be defeated when we turn people's minds away from this violence and make them understand that our values - pluralistic British values - are superior to anything offered by the preachers and supporters of hate.

Second, we cannot allow this ideology the safe space it needs to breed. Yet that is precisely what the internet, and the big companies that provide internet-based services provide.

We need to work with allied democratic governments to reach international agreements that regulate cyberspace to prevent the spread of extremist and terrorism planning. And we need to do everything we can at home to reduce the risks of extremism online.

Third, while we need to deprive the extremists of their safe spaces online, we must not forget about the safe spaces that continue to exist in the real world. Yes, that means taking military action to destroy Isis in Iraq and Syria. But it also means taking action here at home.

While we have made significant progress in recent years, there is - to be frank - far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. So we need to become far more robust in identifying it and stamping it out across the public sector and across society. That will require some difficult, and often embarrassing, conversations.

But the whole of our country needs to come together to take on this extremism, and we need to live our lives not in a series of separated, segregated communities, but as one truly United Kingdom.

Fourth, we have a robust counter-terrorism strategy, that has proved successful over many years. But as the nature of the threat we face becomes more complex, more fragmented, more hidden, especially online, the strategy needs to keep up.

So in light of what we are learning about the changing threat, we need to review Britain's counter-terrorism strategy to make sure the police and security services have all the powers they need.

And if we need to increase the length of custodial sentences for terrorist-related offences - even apparently less serious offences - that is what we will do.

Since the emergence of the threat from Islamist-inspired terrorism, our country has made significant progress in disrupting plots and protecting the public. But it is time to say `Enough is enough'.

Everybody needs to go about their lives as they normally would. Our society should continue to function in accordance with our values. But when it comes to taking on extremism and terrorism, things need to change.

As a mark of respect, two political parties have suspended our national campaigns for today. But violence can never be allowed to disrupt the democratic process, so those campaigns will resume in full tomorrow and the General Election will go ahead as planned on Thursday.

As a country, our response must be as it has always been when we have been confronted by violence. We must come together, we must pull together, and united we will take on and defeat our enemies."
 

countthree

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Funny how we can all know the perpetrator was Muslim and nobody is hiding it, but some are living in a fantasy world where only 'special, informed' people know and they talk about it secretly among themselves while passing in back alleys at midnight. Maybe they pass notes to one another in case they are heard. What a pile of bullshit. Is it a kind of fetish?

I don't know what you mean, but I assure you that for a common person like me living in South America, with a profession, a normal life and good behavior, it is not easy without an Euro citizenship -which I don't have- to be able to visit Great Britain or Europe without completing a lot of bureaucratic formalities and giving an imporant amount of personal information.
I don't understand how a lot of Islamists can go in and out so easily. I know when you arrive with money to invest in the city formalities fall down and a lot of doors open. Maybe terrorists found the soft spot and they know how to skip the controls. Anyway, the Trojan horse already is installed, citizenship included.
 

Quando quando quando

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How many dead people do you need for a OneLoveKabul?


Depends on who you are asking.
Ask it the Afghan people.

I'd say even 1400 isn't enough as that was the number of muslim pilgrims that died in Mecca, a couple of years ago.

There is an enormous gap between values, morals and circumstances in a western society and a middle eastern society.
In general, people of western societies value life above anything else.

It is very difficult to understand people who live with the awareness that life IS always dangerous, unpredictable, and that it is an unbearable task to even survive every day.

And I am not surprised the only thing many of the people who survived for a day, become fatalistic and say Inshalla.
It's the will of God, or Allah.

I don't agree but I am from a western society and not able to understand and in a way I don't want to.
Innocent lives have been taken.
Why? How many times have people been asking that?
And even if there was a God or Allah supplying us with an answer it would be completely unclear and unreasonable.
Innocent people cannot become guilty due to this answer.
They stay innocent.
 

Sidnettle

Death to Racists
I don't know what you mean, but I assure you that for a common person like me living in South America, with a profession, a normal life and good behavior, it is not easy without an Euro citizenship -which I don't have- to be able to visit Great Britain or Europe without completing a lot of bureaucratic formalities and giving an imporant amount of personal information.
I don't understand how a lot of Islamists can go in and out so easily. I know when you arrive with money to invest in the city formalities fall down and a lot of doors open. Maybe terrorists found the soft spot and they know how to skip the controls. Anyway, the Trojan horse already is installed, citizenship included.

Nothing to do with what I was saying.
 

Sidnettle

Death to Racists
Rome?
Nobody knows for sure now anymore.

The question did not mean please give me the location of Morrissey, it meant where the hell was this 'very concerned' person, who felt the need to make a weird statement, when a concert was given in his hometown to commemorate the victims and help their families and the survivors?
 

Sidnettle

Death to Racists
Still don't know what you meant.

I meant whenever I try to find out what the thing that people can only say in private is, all I hear is that the terrorists are muslim. The thing is we all know the terrorists are muslim, so what's the big secret?
(The only question is what is done to stop it).
 

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