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Anonymous

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"Another reason why the omnipotence of 'wealth' is more certain in a democratic republic is that it does not depend on defects in the political machinery or on the faulty political shell of capitalism. A democratic republic is the best possible political shell for capitalism, and, therefore, once capital has gained possession of this very best shell, it establishes its power so securely, so firmly, that no change of persons, institutions or parties in the bourgeois-democratic republic can shake it. Universal suffrage is an instrument of bourgeois rule."

Morrissey's stance is not Anarchy. It's Socialism.

Morrissey the socialist? Tell that to the drummer and the bassist of The Smiths.
 

Chip

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Morrissey the socialist? Tell that to the drummer and the bassist of The Smiths.


Well Terrance Stamp always took some irony in the fact that Pasolini was a communist yet, completely ripped him off in a terrible shady deal.

People's views of the worlds and their own actions are not always reflective of one another.
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
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The thing about responses to these new songs is that I cant tell you that you're wrong, and vice versa. As always, de gustibus non est disputandum.

P.

Agree Peter.
I recall the Mexico/Crashing Bores discussions and degree of disagreement.
When the finished product is out and listened to... seems the most prudent way to judge.
Regards,
FWD
 

royskeen

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As to World Peace's lyrics, I'm not sure who the narrator is. It could be multiple persons (or avatars for a lack of a better word). I don't know who is singing "Each time you vote you support the process." It could very well be the same person who is saying that the government is there to oppress. Morrissey often writes from a different prospective (e.g. National Front Disco, The Father Who Must be Killed) Most of the song's lyrics are quite good, although it's not even a lame pun with the double stun.
 
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Anonymouswithapologises

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It's weak for a man of his lyrical calibre. ...
... I've not heard the live songs yet but from these transcripts they are painfully average, by the numbers film flam. Maybe the other tracks will have more inspiring lyrics. We'll see.

i think you expect much, i 'read' it as simple and true, some may call it banal, but morrissey, as one of the greatest english living poets, or maybe the greatest (it's relative and personal, also), can allow himself to be banal if he feels the need of expressing him in such way. the 'message' will catch people who 'live' this song, like it caught me, for an example. and i'm grateful to him for that, knowing that he'll have another style for appropriate themes in his other songs. and i don't see these lyrics as political, they're only very vivid.

I'm not sure where he gets his police experiences from...
... Also encouraging people not to vote in the title track is troublesome. Anarchy doesn't solve problems. ...

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Love. This.


it's not the call for an anarchy, or wishing for it to happen or to begin. it's not a revolutionary call (someone here called him a 'socialist'), he appeals to the listener wanting to him to be/become more aware, or to be/become more human, or to be/become more confident, or to be/become more free, as he/listener can be, in his terms of living. never mind in what system, or in which country he lives. my opinion.

p.s. apologies
 
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Sorry, posted this is another thread but should have posted it here.

It's always a delight to see Morrissey in his element. Thanks to those who posted pics, videos, set lists, etc. of the inaugural gig (especially Real Time Viva). It adds a thick layer of excitement to the anticipation of the upcoming shows I'll be hitting up.

After reading some of the lyrical passages in Moz's book, I had high hopes for the new tunes. Musically, they range from good to great for me, but the lyrics read like bumper sticker slogans rather than that 'turn of phrase' magic Morrissey is so capable of delivering. It would be sloppy to be wholly committed to an opinion just yet -- I'll reserve final judgment until I've digested the entire LP.
 
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Anonymouswithapologies

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As to World Peace's lyrics, I'm not sure who the narrator is. It could be multiple persons (or avatars for a lack of a better word). I don't know who is singing "Each time you vote you support the process." It could very well be the same person who is saying that the government is there to oppress. Morrissey often writes from a different prospective (e.g. National Front Disco, The Father Who Must be Killed) Most of the song's lyrics are quite good, although it's not even a lame pun with the double stun.

hahahaha thumbs up
 

helen661

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I'm hoping 'Kick The Bride Down The Aisle' brings us a bit of Morrissey of old, a bit of light-heartedness a bit of happy, a bit of sad, a bit of humour, and a dash of sarcasm.
On the flip side, we could be seeing women from all over the world taking to the streets and burning their bras in protest! haha
 
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Roy Keane

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It's weak for a man of his lyrical calibre. I remember his lyrics having very usual references and arcane words peppered in and unique phrases and colloquialisms. I understand his fan base has great reach and he's loved across the world but the majority of the fans fell in love with all of these wonderful unusual lyrics. I've not heard the live songs yet but from these transcripts they are painfully average, by the numbers film flam.

Maybe the other tracks will have more inspiring lyrics. We'll see.

I agree with this. Let's recall that mere months ago (or so), Morrissey wrote hundreds of pages that soared lyrically, making even the mundane subject matters sing. These recent offerings, in contrast, seem written by the likes gaga, perry, et al.
 
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Anonymous

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They are rather blunt and obvious. Which is surely intentional, but I think it's fair to say that he didn't build his reputation as one of the great (possibly greatest) lyricists in pop/rock history with words like these.

I remember reading a certain amount of scorn from some people around here when Johnny Marr's album came out last year, with people decrying his abilities as a lyricist. Suddenly, there doesn't seem to be so much between them. Although, God knows - there should.
 
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"Another reason why the omnipotence of 'wealth' is more certain in a democratic republic is that it does not depend on defects in the political machinery or on the faulty political shell of capitalism. A democratic republic is the best possible political shell for capitalism, and, therefore, once capital has gained possession of this very best shell, it establishes its power so securely, so firmly, that no change of persons, institutions or parties in the bourgeois-democratic republic can shake it. Universal suffrage is an instrument of bourgeois rule."

Morrissey's stance is not Anarchy. It's Socialism.

Morrissey, a tax exile, a socialist???

He might think he is, but he isn't
 

!Viva Hate!

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Istanbul

When he first cried
His mother died
I had tried to be his guide
When he was born
I was too young
The father searches for the son

In Istanbul
Give him back to me
Oh, Istanbul
Give me back my brown-eyed son

Moonlight jumping through the trees
Sunken eyes avoiding me
From dawn to dusk the hunt is on
The father searches for the son

In Istanbul
Give him back to me
In Istanbul
Give me back my brown-eyed son

On secret streets in disbelief
Little shadow shows the lead
Prostitutes; stylish and glum
In amongst them you are one
Oh, what have I done?

Rolling breathless off the tongue
The vicious street gang slang
I lean into a box of pine
Identify the kid as mine
 

!Viva Hate!

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Kick The Bride Down The Aisle

Kick the bride down the aisle
And make no mistake
It's the best you can do for everyone's sake

Kick the bride down the aisle
And treasure the day
I know so much more than I'm willing to say

She just wants a slave
To break his back in two for the living wage
So that she can laze and graze
For the rest of her days
Write down every word I say

Kick the bride down the aisle
In a mudslide of gloom
She'll order you to tidy your room

Kick the bride down the aisle
Look at that cow in the field
It knows more than your bride knows now

She just wants a slave
To break his back in two for the living wage
So that she can laze and graze
For the rest of her days
Write down every word I say

You're that stretch of the beach
That the tide doesn't reach
No reason, no meaning
A lonely season

Kick the bride down the aisle
And treasure the day
 

marred

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2 songs about transvestites on one album. "I'm Not A Man" is definitely a contender! I bet it'll be about Morrissey's sweetheart...

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oh my god I thought I got this image out of my head. This was a sad day in the moz camp to say the least. I am so glad this didn't happen when I saw him live. Utterly sad and butterly bad...
 
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Anonymous

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Kick The Bride Down The Aisle

Kick the bride down the aisle
And make no mistake
It's the best you can do for everyone's sake

Kick the bride down the aisle
And treasure the day
I know so much more than I'm willing to say

She just wants a slave
To break his back in two for the living wage
So that she can laze and graze
For the rest of her days
Write down every word I say

Kick the bride down the aisle
In a mudslide of gloom
She'll order you to tidy your room

Kick the bride down the aisle
Look at that cow in the field
It knows more than your bride knows now

She just wants a slave
To break his back in two for the living wage
So that she can laze and graze
For the rest of her days
Write down every word I say

You're that stretch of the beach
That the tide doesn't reach
No reason, no meaning
A lonely season

Kick the bride down the aisle
And treasure the day

Wow. So nuance. Much meaning. Such MRA.
 
Morrissey, a tax exile, a socialist???

He might think he is, but he isn't

It's nothing new. Morrissey in 1985:

Are you a socialist?


I am. I don't belong to any particular party but I were to be stripped down, as it were, I would be shoved in the socialist box. Why? Just the very obvious things of coming from a working-class background, being exposed to hardships and the reality of life. I think all socialists are absolute realists.
 
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