Spectator USA: "Human after all" by John Waters (August 5, 2020)

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reelfountain

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You're right. I think racists like @reelfountain hang their racism on some cod, fictitious nostalgia for a Britain that simply never existed. Their nostalgia (and I include Morrissey in this) seems to be more for a lost childhood than anything.
Every non-white country in the world is proud of their nation and would not like to see it changed beyond recognition by the mass entry of foreigners.

Only white people have been "instructed" not to think along these lines anymore...

The memo says: Britain is not yours, it belongs to the whole (third) world. Let them swamp in and be grateful.

When you walk down the street and don't hear an English voice or see an English face - enjoy it.
 

Nerak

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No, because I speak the "horrific" truth that would send people into instant depression if they were to admit this "difficult" truth.

So they censor, ridicule and deny.
You speak horrific - you don't speak the truth - & most of your bollocks comes from American racists with their white nationalist, one drop, white genocide hysteria.
 

Radis Noir

Fear of a Black Radish
Every non-white country in the world is proud of their nation and would not like to see it changed beyond recognition by the mass entry of foreigners.

Only white people have been "instructed" not to think along these lines anymore...

The memo says: Britain is not yours, it belongs to the whole (third) world. Let them swamp in and be grateful.
Um... no. I think you are talking bollocks but perhaps you could persuade me otherwise: what aspects of British culture have been eradicated by immigration. Aren't you even slightly embarrassed that you can't answer that question, on which your whole argument relies?
 

Nerak

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Every non-white country in the world is proud of their nation and would not like to see it changed beyond recognition by the mass entry of foreigners.

Only white people have been "instructed" not to think along these lines anymore...

The memo says: Britain is not yours, it belongs to the whole (third) world. Let them swamp in and be grateful.
Every country in the world has tribal, religious, & cultural differences.

Nation states invent the things a large group of people are supposed to have in common & they can reinvent them.
 

reelfountain

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You speak horrific - you don't speak the truth - & most of your bollocks comes from American racists with their white nationalist, one drop, white genocide hysteria.
What I see - which is reality-based rather than ideology based - is what many, many British are seeing now. Which is why the "racism" bullets are being loaded into the guns like never before.

Radis is right. Earlier he mockingly said that my kind has "lost" their country and that basically I should suck it up.

I am the past, the alien hordes are the future.
 

Nerak

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What I see - which is reality-based rather than ideology based - is what many, many British are seeing now. Which is why the "racism" bullets are being loaded into the guns like never before.

Radis is right. Earlier he mockingly said that my kind has "lost" their country and that basically I should suck it up.

I am the past, the alien hordes are the future.
Humans are the future if we don't wreck the planet.

And you wouldn't know reality if it slapped you.
 

reelfountain

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Um... no. I think you are talking bollocks but perhaps you could persuade me otherwise: what aspects of British culture have been eradicated by immigration. Aren't you even slightly embarrassed that you can't answer that question, on which your whole argument relies?
Everything is being blackwashed and bastardised.

Being white and non woke is virtually a crime.
 
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Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888

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Which bits of white working class culture and it's people have I said disgust me? Quote me one example. Or perhaps you can tell me which elements of white working class culture have been eradicated by immigration?
Again, you are making up bullshit lies that you can't back up. The meaninglessness of what you write is fundamental to why your arguments and your viewpoint are so lame.

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just as i thought, a foreign snob.:handpointup:
probably from a Muslim country posting from a tourist book.
explains uppity attitude and backwards English:blushing:
 

reelfountain

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Yes, there could.

You'd have to get a working-class gay lad who spent hours watching a Taste of Honey & Victoria Wood & reading James Baldwin & poetry - which is unlikely - but it's still possible.

And they'd make less of an impact because of streaming - but that's tech.
They'd be called "racist" before the project got off the ground. You're not allowed to reference or celebrate England now in any way unless you include the correct quota of ethnicity. Marr would have to be replaced by an African and the other two by a Muslim paedophile and a goatherder from Romania.
 

Nerak

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What is the point in reading a book as biased as this?

The left is great. Globalism is great... Trump is bad... all the stuff we hear every day.
It's objective - it's studying the rhetoric, organisation & behaviour of the alt & far right.

The point is so people know where you're coming from.

You might even learn something if you haven't been on 8Chan.

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Nerak

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They'd be called "racist" before the project got off the ground. You're not allowed to reference or celebrate England now in any way unless you include the correct quota of ethnicity. Marr would have to be replaced by an African and the other two by a Muslim paedophile and a goatherder from Romania.
British heritage is big business. Keira Knightley & Danny Dyer alone FLOOD us with ye olde England Cor Blimey.

And Morrissey's 1980s socialism & opinions on class would also be acceptable.

Also - if music did have a diversity quota (which it doesn't) - The Smiths would pass on the grounds of Moz raiding Evans & looking extremely queer.

 
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carlislebaz

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KKK BALMPOT go to bed with your hitler book, I’m surprised all your little bitches haven’t yet awoken to your campaign, alas coffin lids are still to slam open.... I’m finished with you for tonight.......
 
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@reelfountain if you can't defeat radis noir and nerak in a debate - two complete and utter dipshits (sorry nerak, nothing personal), especially radis - both of whom should be easy enough to trounce, then you really need to go away for a while (a long while) and work on your arguments. One key piece of advice: stop bringing up stuff that can't be proven without a shadow of a doubt. I cringe when I see you mention the Kalergi plan because I know you can't defend it. There are plenty of things to focus on that are true and important without bringing in the niche conspiracies which allow an idiot like radis to play 'gotcha' and take the moral high ground. Work on it!
 
You see the thing about articles like this is that they miss the real, overarching point. If he's so right about everything, how come the fan-base is deserting him, and he doesn't sell anymore? It's almost like espousing right-wing ideals loses you business. Now - you may think he's been right and stuck to his guns all along, but try telling that to the punters who won't give him their money anymore when they find out about his many pronouncements. All about the money. Always was, and still is. He doesn't sell anymore. And there's only one person to blame. Who said all those things? Was it someone else?
I don't know if Morrissey records still sell. If they don't, then in my opinion it is because they don't measure up to the Morrissey of classic years (1987-1994). If he makes a quality album, the fans will be there regardless of politics. I believe that the number of fans who have or would desert him purely due to his politics is shockingly small. I also think that there are many people who secretly agree with Morrissey's political views.
 

Radis Noir

Fear of a Black Radish
@reelfountain if you can't defeat radis noir and nerak in a debate - two complete and utter dipshits (sorry nerak, nothing personal), especially radis - both of whom should be easy enough to trounce, then you really need to go away for a while (a long while) and work on your arguments. One key piece of advice: stop bringing up stuff that can't be proven without a shadow of a doubt. I cringe when I see you mention the Kalergi plan because I know you can't defend it. There are plenty of things to focus on that are true and important without bringing in the niche conspiracies which allow an idiot like radis to play 'gotcha' and take the moral high ground. Work on it!
Get yourself an account and join in if you think you can do better. I won't be holding my breath though. Anonymous cowards like you prefer to hide and snipe, presumably in the full knowledge that the only dipshit and idiot around here is you. Come on, sign up and let's see what you are made of.
 

Verso

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Reel is incredibly passionate about saying absolutely nothing. Even I have gotten bored of arguing with her, which is actually depressing in its own little way. Once you realize that she simply repeats the same three or four paranoid racial fantasies without a shred of substantiating evidence to back them up, the game sort of loses its fun.
 

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