The Moz/Smiths Top 100 - FINAL RESULTS 2010

Houdini

Junior Member
BEST MORRISSEY-SONG OF THE 2000s:

1) First Of The Gang To Die (2004) 9,02
2) Irish Blood, English Heart (2004) 9.01
3) Life Is A Pigsty (2006) 8,95
4) Let Me Kiss You (2004) 8,63
5) My Dearest Love (2008) 8,52
6) The Never Played Symphonies (2004) 8,51
7) I Have Forgiven Jesus (2004) 8,50
8) Come Back To Camden (2004) 8,38
9) It's Not Your Birthday Anymore (2009) 8,36
10) Friday Mourning (2004) 8,35
11) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
12) You Have Killed Me (2006) 8,23
13) Something Is Squeezing My Skull (2009) 8,20
14) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores (2004) 8,18
15) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris (2009) 8,06
16) Ganglord (2006) 8,01
17) All You Need Is Me (2008) 7,98
18) I’m Not Sorry (2004) 7,95
19) You Know I Couldn’t Last (2004) 7,95
20) When Last I Spoke To Carol (2009) 7,90
21) I Like You (2004) 7,88
22) You Should Have been Nice To Me (2009) 7,81
23) Honey, You Know Where To Find Me (2009) 7,80
24) I'm OK By Myself (2009) 7,79
25) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now (2006) 7,76
26) It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small (2004) 7,74
27) Shame Is The Name (2009) 7,67
28) In The Future When All’s Well (2006) 7,67
29) I Will See You In Far Off Places (2006) 7,65
30) Dear God, Please Help Me (2006) 7,61
31) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me (2006) 7,60
32) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye (2004) 7,55
33) To Me You Are A Work Of Art (2006) 7,45
34) Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41
35) I Knew I Was Next (2006) 7,40
36) Good Looking Man About Town (2006) 7,39
37) Munich Air Disaster 1958 (2004) 7,33
38) The Youngest Was The Most Loved (2006) 7,31
39) How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? (2004) 7,31
40) Black Cloud (2009) 7,28
41) One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell (2009) 7,27
42) Teenage Dad On His Estate (2004) 7,27
43) Human Being (2006) 7,27
44) That’s How People Grow Up (2008) 7,20
45) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
46) I Am Two People (2004) 7,15
47) Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice (2004) 7,15
48) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy (2006) 7,10
49) On The Streets I Ran (2006) 6,99
50) The Public Image (2004) 6,89
51) Christian Dior (2006) 6,87
52) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
53) Fantastic Bird (2009) 6,83
54) Children In Pieces (2008) 6,80
55) At Last I Am Born (2006) 6,71
56) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
57) You Were Good In Your Time (2009) 6,66
58) Mexico (2004) 6,64
59) The Father Who Must Be Killed (2006) 6,61
60) Because Of My Poor Education (2009) 6,56
61) America Is Not The World (2004) 6,50
62) Sorry Doesn't Help (2009) 6,22
63) All The Lazy Dykes (2004) 6,15
64) Slum Mums (2004) 6,10
65) Noise Is The Best Revenge (2005) 6,09
66) Sweetie Pie (2006) 5,53

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,47
 
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Maurice E

Junior Member
BEST MORRISSEY-SONG OF THE 2000s:

1) First Of The Gang To Die (2004) 9,02
2) Irish Blood, English Heart (2004) 9.01
3) Life Is A Pigsty (2006) 8,95
4) Let Me Kiss You (2004) 8,63
5) My Dearest Love (2008) 8,52
6) The Never Played Symphonies (2004) 8,51
7) I Have Forgiven Jesus (2004) 8,50
8) Come Back To Camden (2004) 8,38
9) It's Not Your Birthday Anymore (2009) 8,36
10) Friday Mourning (2004) 8,35
11) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
12) You Have Killed Me (2006) 8,23
13) Something Is Squeezing My Skull (2009) 8,20
14) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores (2004) 8,18
15) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris (2009) 8,06
16) Ganglord (2006) 8,01
17) All You Need Is Me (2008) 7,98
18) I’m Not Sorry (2004) 7,95
19) You Know I Couldn’t Last (2004) 7,95
20) When Last I Spoke To Carol (2009) 7,90
21) I Like You (2004) 7,88
22) You Should Have been Nice To Me (2009) 7,81
23) Honey, You Know Where To Find Me (2009) 7,80
24) I'm OK By Myself (2009) 7,79
25) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now (2006) 7,76
26) It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small (2004) 7,74
27) Shame Is The Name (2009) 7,67
28) In The Future When All’s Well (2006) 7,67
29) I Will See You In Far Off Places (2006) 7,65
30) Dear God, Please Help Me (2006) 7,61
31) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me (2006) 7,60
32) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye (2004) 7,55
33) To Me You Are A Work Of Art (2006) 7,45
34) Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41
35) I Knew I Was Next (2006) 7,40
36) Good Looking Man About Town (2006) 7,39
37) Munich Air Disaster 1958 (2004) 7,33
38) The Youngest Was The Most Loved (2006) 7,31
39) How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? (2004) 7,31
40) Black Cloud (2009) 7,28
41) One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell (2009) 7,27
42) Teenage Dad On His Estate (2004) 7,27
43) Human Being (2006) 7,27
44) That’s How People Grow Up (2008) 7,20
45) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
46) I Am Two People (2004) 7,15
47) Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice (2004) 7,15
48) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy (2006) 7,10
49) On The Streets I Ran (2006) 6,99
50) The Public Image (2004) 6,89
51) Christian Dior (2006) 6,87
52) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
53) Fantastic Bird (2009) 6,83
54) Children In Pieces (2008) 6,80
55) At Last I Am Born (2006) 6,71
56) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
57) You Were Good In Your Time (2009) 6,66
58) Mexico (2004) 6,64
59) The Father Who Must Be Killed (2006) 6,61
60) Because Of My Poor Education (2009) 6,56
61) America Is Not The World (2004) 6,50
62) Sorry Doesn't Help (2009) 6,22
63) All The Lazy Dykes (2004) 6,15
64) Slum Mums (2004) 6,10
65) Noise Is The Best Revenge (2005) 6,09
66) Sweetie Pie (2006) 5,53

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,47

gosh - it's a real inditement on the quality of the 21st century stuff, isn't it? what on earth would Moz make of it all?
out of 66 songs, only four were considered as good as an average Smiths song (8.6/10).

also, just two songs reaching 9/10. there were eight in the 90's and thirty in the 80's (including six from Steven Street).
 

Kewpie

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gosh - it's a real inditement on the quality of the 21st century stuff, isn't it? what on earth would Moz make of it all?
out of 66 songs, only four were considered as good as an average Smiths song (8.6/10).

also, just two songs reaching 9/10. there were eight in the 90's and thirty in the 80's (including six from Steven Street).


STEPHEN Street, not Steven.

I bet the majority of the people who took part in the polls like Smiths more than solo stuff.
 

skull

Active Member
Really, how difficult can this be to understand? People give "Panic" a higher vote than "Wide to receive" because they think it's a much better song, not because of nostalgia. If you ask me, "Panic" is an excellent 9 and one of the smiths' better songs, "Wide to receive" is a mediocre 6 and one of Morrissey's weaker songs. We all have songs here we think are overrated, and ones that we think are underrated.

cheers

Ok, I don't want to offend anyone and I agree with you: I'm sure that many people vote judging quality, or whatever arrives to their ears and hearts, but in my personal opinion, sometimes objectivity fails. I am quite sure that it's more likely for a 20 years old boy today to fall in love with Years of Refusal than any of the songs in The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow...And most Morrissey fans are older than 30 today...so...it could be that sometimes, only sometimes objectivity may fail...Anyway I like the polite way you discuss and I like it. Thank you!
 

Qvist

Active Member
I am quite sure that it's more likely for a 20 years old boy today to fall in love with Years of Refusal than any of the songs in The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow...And most Morrissey fans are older than 30 today...so...it could be that sometimes, only sometimes objectivity may fail...

Absolutely, we all bring our different circumstances, tastes and preconditions to the experience of the music. Inescapably so. And it's not really any question of objectivity, on the contrary any judgment of taste is neccessarily subjective. But there's a difference between a subjective taste judgement and an inability to judge music openly and fairly because of stubbornness, nostalgia etc etc. Anyway, glad to see that harmony and agreement reigns in the end. :)

cheers
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best unreleased track:

1) I'm Playing Easy To Get 7,46
2) Striptease With A Difference 7,44
3) Lifeguard On Duty 7,40
4) Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness 7.25
5) Happy Lovers United 7,19
6) Born To Hang 7,07
7) Oh Phoney 6,46
 

Orson Swells

Well-Known Member
Best unreleased track:

1) I'm Playing Easy To Get 7,46
2) Striptease With A Difference 7,44
3) Lifeguard On Duty 7,40
4) Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness 7.25
5) Happy Lovers United 7,19
6) Born To Hang 7,07
7) Oh Phoney 6,46


Perhaps you should have included Mikey Farrell's re-imagined "Sweetie-Pie" in the poll...
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best The Smiths-single:

1) This Charming Man 9,50
2) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me 9,42
3) Panic 9,40
4) The Boy With The Thorn In His Side 9,40
5) That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore 9,36
6) Bigmouth Strikes Again 9,34
7) How Soon Is Now? 9,32
8) Hand In Glove 9,30
9) Shoplifters Of The World Unite 9,28
10) William It Was Really Nothing 9,26
11) Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now 8,89
12) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
13) Girlfriend In A Coma 8,85
14) Sheila Take A Bow 8,60
15) Ask 8,54
16) I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish 8,54
17) Shakespeare’s Sister 8,34
 

zulu sierra

Born again atheist
Thanks Houdini for all the above useful compilations..I hope you'll continue with best B-sides and a list of Smiths/Moz albums with their respective tracks listed from highest to lowest ranking ( like you did 2 years back ).....
 
Best Morrissey-song of the 1990s:

1) Speedway (1994) 9,53
2) Now My Heart Is Full (1994) 9,52
23) Maladjusted (1997) 8,34

:D All brilliant ratings for these songs. But...

81) Tony The Pony (1991) 6,08


:eek: What?!

BEST MORRISSEY-SONG OF THE 2000s:

34) Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,47

:tears: An abomination. Also, I couldn't see 'Friday Mourning' on that list. Although maybe that's just my bad eyesight...

Ok, I don't want to offend anyone and I agree with you: I'm sure that many people vote judging quality, or whatever arrives to their ears and hearts, but in my personal opinion, sometimes objectivity fails. I am quite sure that it's more likely for a 20 years old boy today to fall in love with Years of Refusal than any of the songs in The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow...And most Morrissey fans are older than 30 today...so...it could be that sometimes, only sometimes objectivity may fail...Anyway I like the polite way you discuss and I like it. Thank you!

I agree with you too skull. :)
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Also, I couldn't see 'Friday Mourning' on that list. Although maybe that's just my bad eyesight...

It's at numer 10!

Thanks Houdini for all the above useful compilations..I hope you'll continue with best B-sides and a list of Smiths/Moz albums with their respective tracks listed from highest to lowest ranking ( like you did 2 years back ).....

It's forthcoming! Check these pages in the coming days...
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best The Smiths B-side:

1) Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want 9,52
2) Rubber Ring 9,39
3) How Soon Is Now? 9,32
4) Half A Person 9,15
5) Asleep 9,14
6) Handsome Devil 8,92
7) Sweet And Tender Hooligan 8,89
8) Stretch Out And Wait 8,89
9) You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet Baby 8,76
10) Girl Afraid 8,71
11) Is It Really So Strange? 8,59
12) This Night Has Opened My Eyes 8,54
13) Back To The Old House 8,53
14) These Things Take Time 8,49
15) Unlovable 8,46
16) Jeane 8,45
17) London 8,40
18) Wonderful Woman 8,04
19) Oscillate Wildly 7,58
20) Accept Yourself 7,54
21) I Keep Mine Hidden 7,35
22) The Draize Train 6,65
23) Money Changes Everything 6,49
24) Work Is A Four Letter Word 6,41
25) What’s The World 6,07
26) Golden Lights 4,93
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best Morrissey-single:

1) Everyday Is Like Sunday 9,53

2) Suedehead 9,52
3) Now My Heart Is Full (US Only) 9,52
4) The Last Of The Famous International Playboys 9,44
5) November Spawned A Monster 9,11
6) First Of The Gang To Die 9,02
7) Irish Blood, English Heart 9,01
8) The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 8,95
9) Tomorrow (US only) 8,88
10) Piccadilly Palare 8,84
11) Let Me Kiss You 8,63
12) My Love Life 8,48
13) Sunny 8,47
14) I Have Forgiven Jesus 8,45
15) Hold On To Your Friends 8,42
16) Interesting Drug 8,40
17) You Have Killed Me 8,23
18) Something Is Squeezing My Skull 8,20
19) We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful 8,18
20) Boxers 8,13
21) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris 8,06
22) Sing Your Life 8,03
23) The Boy Racer 7,99
24) All You Need Is Me 7,98
25) Alma Matters 7,94
26) Satan Rejected My Soul 7,89
27) Certain People I Know 7,79
28) Ouija Board, Ouija Board 7,72
29) Our Frank 7,72
30) In The Future When All’s Well 7,67
31) You’re The One For Me Fatty 7,42
32) Pregnant For The Last Time 7,39
33) Interlude 7,35
34) The Youngest Was The Most Loved 7,31
35) That’s How People Grow Up 7,20
36) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 7,10
37) Redondo Beach 6,85
38) Roy’s Keen 6,84
39) Dagenham Dave 6,80
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best Morrissey B-side:

1) Jack The Ripper 9.28

2) Hairdresser On Fire 9,13
3) Will Never Marry 9,05
4) Sister I’m A Poet 8,97
5) Nobody Loves Us 8,96
6) I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty 8,95
7) Disappointed 8,79
8) My Dearest Love 8,52
9) The Never Played Symphonies 8,51
10) Lost 8,40

11) Such A Little Thing Makes Such A Big Difference 8,37
12) Friday Mourning 8,35
13) I Know Very Well How I Got My Name 8,33
14) I’d Love To 8,32
15) Whatever Happens, I Love You 8,25
16) The Loop 8,27
17) No One Can Hold A Candle To You 8,20
18) Lucky Lisp 8,02
19) Ganglord 7,96
20) I Can Have Both 7,93
21) Yes, I Am Blind 7,86
22) The Edges Are No Longer Parallel 7,80
23) Girl Least Likely To 7,78
24) It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small 7,76
25) You Must Please Remember 7,72
26) Shame Is The Name 7,67
27) A Swallow On My Neck 7,66
28) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me 7,55
29) He Knows I’d Love To See Him 7,51
30) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye 7,48
31) Have-A-Go Merchant 7,37
32) Munich Air Disaster 1958 7,36
33) I Knew I Was Next 7,36
34) Oh Well I’ll Never Learn 7,34
35) Good Looking Man About Town 7,32
36) Skin Storm 7,30
37) A Song From Under The Floorboards 7,29
38) Let The Right One Slip In 7,27
39) Teenage Dad On His Estate 7,27
40) Human Being 7,26
41) That’s Entertainment 7,24
42) Michael’s Bones 7,18
43) I Am Two People 7,17
44) Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice 7,15
45) This Is Not Your Country 7,06
46) Now I Am A Was 7,01
47) Pashernate Love 6,98
48) Heir Apparent 6,94
49) Christian Dior 6,87
50) At Amber 6,82
51) The Public Image 6,80
52) Children In Pieces 6,80
53) Moonriver 6,67
54) Drive-In Saturday 6,66
55) Mexico 6,60
56) Cosmic Dancer 6,59
57) Because Of My Poor Education 6,59
58) Black Eyed Susan 6,52
59) East West 6,51
60) There Speaks A True Friend 6,23
61) You’ve Had Her 6,11
62) Slum Mums 6,10
63) Tony The Pony 6,08
64) Get Off The Stage 5,96
65) Noise Is The Best Revenge 6,09
66) Sweetie Pie 5,53
67) Journalists Who Lie 4,78
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best cover-version:

1) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
2) Interlude (1994) 7,35
3) Skin Storm (1991) 7,31
4) Human Being (2006) 7,27
5) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
6) That’s Entertainment (1991) 7,14
7) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
8) Moonriver (1994) 6,70
9) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
10) East West (1989) 6,62
11) Cosmic Dancer (1991) 6,54
12) Work Is A Four Letter Word (1987) 6,41
13) What’s The World (1987) 6,07
14) Golden Lights (1986) 4,93
 

King Leer

Leering since '97
This little tangent is interesting. Thanks as always to Houdini for his (her?) copious charts. While Mozzer's output in the aughts ranks lowest overall, his cover versions did quite well it seems. Surprised Interlude and Skin Storm are that high up. My impression was that Interlude was often dismissed by fans and critics alike. It's a pretty thing but just by listening to it it's obviously a duet only in the most technical of terms.

No One Can Hold...I think of all the covers, the lyrics of this one come across more like Morrissey's own than any other which may be a reason it works so very well. Really like the sound of A Song From... too.

Human Being -- good feel but drags on one verse/chorus too long. This one could use a fan edit.

Not recorded so it's not part of the chart but I was excited when I heard he did Street Life, perhaps my favourite Roxy track ever. Then I heard it...


Best cover-version:

1) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
2) Interlude (1994) 7,35
3) Skin Storm (1991) 7,31
4) Human Being (2006) 7,27
5) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
6) That’s Entertainment (1991) 7,14
7) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
8) Moonriver (1994) 6,70
9) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
10) East West (1989) 6,62
11) Cosmic Dancer (1991) 6,54
12) Work Is A Four Letter Word (1987) 6,41
13) What’s The World (1987) 6,07
14) Golden Lights (1986) 4,93
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best song on The Smiths(1984) - best to worst:


1) Still Ill 9,56
2) Reel Around The Fountain 9,41
3) Hand In Glove 9,30
4) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
5) Suffer Little Children 8,63
6) The Hand That Rocks The Cradle 8,51
7) Pretty Girls Make Graves 8,47
8) You’ve Got Everything Now 8,35
9) I Don’t Owe You Anything 8,03
10) Miserable Lie 7,75

AVERAGE RATING: 8,69
 

Daddy Cool

Dodgy Fool-san
Best song on The Smiths(1984) - best to worst:


1) Still Ill 9,56
2) Reel Around The Fountain 9,41
3) Hand In Glove 9,30
4) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
5) Suffer Little Children 8,63
6) The Hand That Rocks The Cradle 8,51
7) Pretty Girls Make Graves 8,47
8) You’ve Got Everything Now 8,35
9) I Don’t Owe You Anything 8,03
10) Miserable Lie 7,75

AVERAGE RATING: 8,69

Miserable Lie in last position? Whoever thinks that is right is a c***-ry mile behind the world.
 

Houdini

Junior Member
Best song on Meat Is Murder(1985) - best to worst:

1) The Headmaster Ritual 9,47
2) That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore 9,36
3) Well I Wonder 9,31
4) I Want The One I Can’t Have 9,01
5) Nowhere Fast 8,93
6) Rusholme Ruffians 8,74
7) What She Said 8,60
8) Barbarism Begins At Home 8,41
9) Meat Is Murder 8,14

AVERAGE RATING: 8,89
 
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