TTY: Morrissey groped at San Francisco International Airport

UPDATE Oct. 6:

Morrissey airport security incident CCTV video posted - Gawker

UPDATE 1:50 PM PT
:

Uncleskinny posted the link:

A TSA spokesperson has denied any officer misconduct to Rolling Stone. "TSA takes all allegations of misconduct seriously and strives to treat every passenger with dignity and respect," Mike England says. "Upon review of closed circuit TV footage, TSA determined that the supervised officer followed standard operating procedures in the screening of this individual."

UPDATE July 31:

Morrissey claims sex assault by security at US airport - BBC News

Excerpt posted by klaus:

He added that the arrival of a second person to screen Morrissey was normal, and helped "to ensure the passenger does not have threat items, such as explosives concealed under clothing."



San Francisco International Airport
- true-to-you.net
29 July 2015

On leaving the US on 27 July I flew from San Francisco International Airport to London on flight BA 284.

At 2:30 in the afternoon I went through the usual airport security procedure including the stand-up 'scanner', and all was well - no bleeps and nothing unusual.

Before I could gather my belongings from the usual array of trays I was approached by an "airport security officer" who stopped me, crouched before me and groped my penis and testicles. He quickly moved away as an older "airport security officer" approached.

The officer who sexually assaulted me was identified as the General Manager On Duty. Luckily I was accompanied by two members of British Airways Special Services, who were horrified at the sexual attack and suggested that I lodge a complaint. I asked if there would be any point in lodging a complaint since, as with any complaint against a figure in "authority", the complaints are simply collected in order to protect the guilty officer should the matter go further. The British Airways Special Services employees assured me that a complaint was worthwhile, and so I filed the appropriate information. However, before doing so, the guilty "officer" was confronted, and the conversation went thus:

You have just sexually groped this man.
Officer: That's just your opinion.
What you have done is illegal.
Officer: That's just your opinion.
You have no right to do what you have just done.
Officer: That's just your opinion.

Apart from "that's just your opinion", he would not comment, even though, since the penis and testicles were mine and no one else's, then my opinion must surely have some meaning. But, of course, what the airport security officer was saying was: your opinion will never count in the eyes of the law. The words "that's just your opinion" volunteered themselves from this 'officer's' mouth before he had even heard the question. He knew he could be confronted, but he also knew that he could never be challenged (even though the entire incident is most certainly on CCTV camera).

In the interests of imperishable bureaucracy my submitted complaint against this 'officer' will obviously be either unread or ignored because, as we all know, on matters of officialism it is not possible to be pleasantly surprised by anything at all. However, what is clear is that, should you find yourself traveling through San Francisco International Airport, you should expect sexual abuse from the so-called 'security officers' who, we are unconvincingly warned, are acting only for our security.

Do people have minds?

Morrissey
29 July 2015



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Anonymous

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Morrissey was right to complain about this manager giving him a hard time...
 
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Anonymous

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Lot of people on Facebook taking the piss. I know, I know.. ripe for humor and song quotes. Still, this is someone who experienced sexual abuse which he stayed silent about for many years. Now he feels he can address it right off the bat, and people are mocking him. I find it so disgraceful. Even if it was "only a fondling." Unwanted sexual advances of any kind aren't alright. A fondling can still make you feel unsafe, it can trigger worse memories... I think it takes guts for him to speak up. I'm sure he's well aware of how people are on the internet. The majority have lived up to expectations.. lovely.
 
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Tynamuna

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Lot of people on Facebook taking the piss. I know, I know.. ripe for humor and song quotes. Still, this is someone who experienced sexual abuse which he stayed silent about for many years. Now he feels he can address it right off the bat, and people are mocking him. I find it so disgraceful. Even if it was "only a fondling." Unwanted sexual advances of any kind aren't alright. A fondling can still make you feel unsafe, it can trigger worse memories... I think it takes guts for him to speak up. I'm sure he's well aware of how people are on the internet. The majority have lived up to expectations.. lovely.
Are you referring to the gymtecher? Morrissey almost sued a newspaper for claiming he was inappropriately touched by that man. Or is it something else you mean. I consider the touching by the teacher totally unacceptable but it's a fine line really between sexual abuse really

Edit: I'm going to erase my joking post and keep the nice one :( I feel bad
 
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The_Beginning

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Write a song about it and shut the f*** up. Unless you're a woman or a child, shit like this should be filed under "f***ed up shit happens. Get over it."

He wasn't raped. He wasn't hurt. He was...embarrassed. Yeah it's a violation of privacy but c'mon, man, you're gonna write a f***ing diatribe on the internet about it?

Why the f*** would anyone want to grope a 56 year old man's junk anyway? Gross. But that's just my opinion.

You should be embarrassed for making remarks like that. It is a double standard, obviously, and if it was a woman who wasn't "hurt" when some security MAN put his hand down her slacks and groped her pussy it would be "NBD" just cause for embarrassment. Right? And even better, if it was a woman sexually molesting men, it would be cause for laughter and "well he should have enjoyed it, why is he complaining?" These sexist double standards are what is truly hilarious.

Feminism is absolutely pathetic and displays a total lack of logical and consistent thinking.

It is very much along the lines of radical feminism here -- "we" are victims, men are pigs who deserve all they get and they should ideally be raped and killed, and let us take their place of power so that we may rape and abuse and kill for ourselves.
 
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Jack the groper
Let the right hand slip
Hand in groin
Why don't you have a grope for yourself
Now my groin is full
Have a grope merchant
Friday groping
Last night I dreamt that somebody groped me
Big hand strikes again
Wide to receive
Interesting grope
Security palare
You have groped me
Last of the famous international airport gropers
I just want to see security happy
National grope disco
Security's keen

" Because ! Because we must ! "

Benny-the-British-Butcher
 

The_Beginning

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I'm sorry, but he wasn't raped. Someone touched his junk over his pants for a second or two. Was it wrong, yes, but more of a misdemeanor than a capital offense IMHO.

If it was a woman who had her pussy groped it would be "legit" assault though. If sexual abuse is to be taken seriously in any context, these double standards need to go away.
 

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Vulgarian
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If you take everything Moz says as utterly gospel, then yes: he's a rape victim.
Oddly, I guarantee he's not going to let that stop him travelling ever.
Nor is he so busy drawing with black crayons whilst rocking in foetal position to be able to describe such an indecent act to such a wide audience.
Don't forget all the potential mind rape by people looking at him and others in the body scanner....
Perspective please?
Besides enough witnesses to sink a ship, hired 'bodyguards' and an entourage.... I think someone more than capable of articulating sexual assault would have found a more appropriate way of doing so than writing a note and giving it to Julia.
I have followed Moz from 83....but this is just an utter load of....
Sigh.
Regards,
FWD
 

CrystalGeezer

My secret's my enzyme.
I think the question everyone wants answered is did it take fifteen minutes?

I'll get me coat.
 

The_Beginning

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If you take everything Moz says as utterly gospel, then yes: he's a rape victim.
Oddly, I guarantee he's not going to let that stop him travelling ever.
Nor is he so busy drawing with black crayons whilst rocking in foetal position to be able to describe such an indecent act to such a wide audience.
Don't forget all the potential mind rape by people looking at him and others in the body scanner....
Perspective please?
Besides enough witnesses to sink a ship, hired 'bodyguards' and an entourage.... I think someone more than capable of articulating sexual assault would have found a more appropriate way of doing so than writing a note and giving it to Julia.
I have followed Moz from 83....but this is just an utter load of....
Sigh.
Regards,
FWD

All I ask is that if this is an utter load of... then if this happened to a woman it would also be an utter load of...

Fair is fair.
 

nobody's_nothing

Active Member
"Hand in Glove, Touches Crotch"

All joking aside, assault is a misdemeanor. And is something that causes the victim to legitimately fear for their safety. Aggravated assault involves bodily injury, however; no actual injury is needed to constitute an assault. The definition of assault varies wildly: There is threat that creates reasonable fear, attempt to harm through intent, and actual harm. Morrissey may have been embarrassed, or felt troubled, but I still believe it is assault because it takes many forms. It is not something that has a gender bias, it can happen to anyone.
 

Carly

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You should be embarrassed for making remarks like that. It is a double standard, obviously, and if it was a woman who wasn't "hurt" when some security MAN put his hand down her slacks and groped her pussy it would be "NBD" just cause for embarrassment. Right? And even better, if it was a woman sexually molesting men, it would be cause for laughter and "well he should have enjoyed it, why is he complaining?" These sexist double standards are what is truly hilarious.

Feminism is absolutely pathetic and displays a total lack of logical and consistent thinking.

It is very much along the lines of radical feminism here -- "we" are victims, men are pigs who deserve all they get and they should ideally be raped and killed, and let us take their place of power so that we may rape and abuse and kill for ourselves.
Exactly i hate always hated feminist, years ago it was good for something but now it's all 'entitlement' 'entitlement'. The hypocrisy of feminists have always astounded me, it's a joke in the western world. i wish they would f*** off, it's an embarrassment.
 

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Vulgarian
Moderator
All I ask is that if this is an utter load of... then if this happened to a woman it would also be an utter load of...

Fair is fair.

Far too literal. I suspect many, many women in the process of being searched have experienced a hand across their labia.... Rape or prudent searching?
I think if they felt assaulted, they would complain in a way that didn't involve a website to vent their concerns. In fact, they might ring the police like a 'normal' person.
Plus, given the huge amount of time it can take for victims to come forward, I think he's done miraculously to cope so well, so promptly.
This is Moz being Moz.
Regards,
FWD
 
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Tynamuna

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Feminism is absolutely pathetic and displays a total lack of logical and consistent thinking.

It is very much along the lines of radical feminism here -- "we" are victims, men are pigs who deserve all they get and they should ideally be raped and killed, and let us take their place of power so that we may rape and abuse and kill for ourselves.
Are you stupid? Feminism has nothing to do with skylarks stupid comment. In fact it's a sexist comment because it instist that women are in need of being protected and cannot fend for themselves that's why assault on them are really assault. I'm a feminist and I see no difference when a man or a woman gets assaulted. Assault is assault and should be dealt with accordingly. Feminist don't see men at all as evil or pigs. Don't believe the Twitter loons. For god sakes is about just being treated equally. We are levels below men in the world eye and we are just trying to catch up a bit. We can't be humanists until we are treated equally. So stop being so damned victimized

Btw I'm pretty sure skylarker is a dude
 
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If you take everything Moz says as utterly gospel, then yes: he's a rape victim.
Oddly, I guarantee he's not going to let that stop him travelling ever.
Nor is he so busy drawing with black crayons whilst rocking in foetal position to be able to describe such an indecent act to such a wide audience.
Don't forget all the potential mind rape by people looking at him and others in the body scanner....
Perspective please?
Besides enough witnesses to sink a ship, hired 'bodyguards' and an entourage.... I think someone more than capable of articulating sexual assault would have found a more appropriate way of doing so than writing a note and giving it to Julia.
I have followed Moz from 83....but this is just an utter load of....
Sigh.
Regards,
FWD

1. He doesn't say he is a rape victim.
2. Where does he claim that the incident had this horrible affect on him as you claim above? He just points out that it isn't okay for authorities to do these kind of things, no matter how minor they may seem to some people.
3. He did find a more appropriate way. He also issued an official complaint.
4. Someone's penis and testicles are groped and the person describes it by saying "my penis and testicles were groped". No flowery shit at all.
 

Carly

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Are you stupid? Feminism has nothing to do with skylarks stupid comment. In fact it's a sexist comment because it instist that women are in need of being protected and cannot fend for themselves that's why assault on them are really assault. I'm a feminist and I see no difference when a man or a woman gets assaulted. Assault is assault and should be dealt with accordingly

Btw I'm pretty sure skylarker is a dude
Actually..If Morrissey was a woman, skylarker would have posted some feminist shit
 
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Tynamuna

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Exactly i hate always hated feminist, years ago it was good for something but now it's all 'entitlement' 'entitlement'. The hypocrisy of feminists have always astounded me, it's a joke in the western world. i wish they would f*** off, it's an embarrassment.

My god do you hear yourself.

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Actually..If Morrissey was a woman, skylarker would have posted some feminist shit

Then skylarker is retarded not feminists. Use your logic instead of reading some silly story and jumping on the "feminists are silly Manhaters train" for humanity's sake
 
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Anonymous

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Far too literal. I suspect many, many women in the process of being searched have experienced a hand across their labia.... Rape or prudent searching?
I think if they felt assaulted, they would complain in a way that didn't involve a website to vent their concerns. In fact, they might ring the police like a 'normal' person.
Plus, given the huge amount of time it can take for victims to come forward, I think he's done miraculously to cope so well, so promptly.
This is Moz being Moz.
Regards,
FWD

Did you miss the part where Moz stated he filed a formal complaint?
 

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