Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just hours after her death

UPDATE 1:00 PM PT:

CrystalGeezer posted "It's been suggested this is a mashup of quotes from an old Loaded Magazine article." and !Viva Hate! posted a scan of the Loaded article in the comments.

MORRIZSEY also sends a link to the RollingStone article, which credits the original article at The Daily Beast:

Morrissey: 'Thatcher Was a Terror Without an Atom of Humanity' - The Daily Beast
by Morrissey Apr 8, 2013 1:59 PM EDT
Singer Morrissey, of the seminal 1980s band The Smiths, reacts to news of the death of former U.K. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.


UPDATE 8:15 PM PT:

MORRIZSEY also notes the tweet from Lauren Papapietro (Susan Blond agency):

Lauren Papapietro
@laurnpapapietro - 12:21 PM - 8 Apr 13
#Morrissey comments on the passing of #margaretthatcher "...Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity" http://t.co/p99twdWnwz



Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just hours after her death is announced - Mirror Online
8 Apr 2013 19:36
The musician has been a long-time critic of the former Prime Minister

Outspoken Morrissey tonight blasted Margaret Thatcher as "barbaric" and someone "without an atom of humanity".

The musician has been a long-time critic of the former Prime Minister and aired his views in songs like Margaret On The Guillotine.

Tonight, just hours after her death, he released a strongly-worded statement slamming the former Tory politician.

he said: "Thatcher is remembered as The Iron Lady only because she possessed completely negative traits such as persistent stubbornness and a determined refusal to listen to others.

"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the Ivory Trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own Cabinet booted her out."

Morrissey, whose first Smiths single Hand In Glove was released a month before Baroness Thatcher won her second term of office as Prime Minister in 1983, was highly critical of her role in the Falklands War.

He said: "She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone - and was sailing AWAY from the islands.

"When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs up sign for the British press. Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes.

"She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women's movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a Prime Minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.

Outspoken Morrissey, who recently cancelled a series of shows due to ill health, went on: "Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death.

"As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity," he added.




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Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

Yes, and that is the very context you are using it in. White supremacists use that same argument to justify the use of the N word.

If a word no longer holds its original meaning (and many do not) in the literate public, then CHOOSE a different word--one which clearly does describe what you mean.

don't tell me what words to use you p.c barmy bint. you are hardly one to contextualise a shopping list never mind the politics of 'boo' words. Tell black guys to stop using cracker, see what reception you get.

In his speech "The Ballot or the Bullet", Malcolm X used the term 'cracker' in reference to white people in a pejorative context.[SUP][16][/SUP] In one passage, he remarked, "It's time for you and me to stop sitting in this country, letting some cracker senators, Northern crackers and Southern crackers, sit there in Washington, D.C., and come to a conclusion in their mind that you and I are supposed to have civil rights. There's no white man going to tell me anything about my rights."[SUP][16]

[/SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28pejorative%29#Examples_of_usage

Gormless Americans justify traducing the word 'liberal' to express intellectual incoherence, am I supposed to stop using that word just because a bunch of thicko Yanks have allowed Ann Coulter to rant and rave? I don't think so! "Neoliberal's giving me a nerve itch!" Please, God, let Ozzy be the exception, keep our Saxon Mercian culture secret for all time..or at least till I perfect my Eminem meets The Streets inna Digbeth-Dublin gurrier stylee. Oh dear, now I have to 'rap' as well as everything else. Will Morrissey ever 'get' rap or will he go to his grave a rap-virgin?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daft bint

http://talklikeabrummieday.co.uk/

here's a resource for you to take gratuitous offence at :

http://ipaddyapp.com/

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! Birmingham 1 Dublin 2. Second-half about to kick off!
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

What you wrote was well written and insightful. And length was not an issue. My concern--objection--was there were no paragraph breaks. People are lazy and/or short on time and/or attention. They will pass on your post for such a seemingly simple reason. And I think what you had to say is important and hopefully you do as well. Wasn't trying to be an ass. Just offering a suggestion.

I took it as constructive criticism and was not offended. I appreciate your response.
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

don't tell me what words to use you p.c barmy bint. you are hardly one to contextualise a shopping list never mind the politics of 'boo' words. Tell black guys to stop using cracker, see what reception you get.

In his speech "The Ballot or the Bullet", Malcolm X used the term 'cracker' in reference to white people in a pejorative context.[SUP][16][/SUP] In one passage, he remarked, "It's time for you and me to stop sitting in this country, letting some cracker senators, Northern crackers and Southern crackers, sit there in Washington, D.C., and come to a conclusion in their mind that you and I are supposed to have civil rights. There's no white man going to tell me anything about my rights."[SUP][16]

[/SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28pejorative%29#Examples_of_usage

Gormless Americans justify traducing the word 'liberal' to express intellectual incoherence, am I supposed to stop using that word just because a bunch of thicko Yanks have allowed Ann Coulter to rant and rave? I don't think so! "Neoliberal's giving me a nerve itch!" Please, God, let Ozzy be the exception, keep our Saxon Mercian culture secret for all time..or at least till I perfect my Eminem meets The Streets inna Digbeth-Dublin gurrier stylee. Oh dear, now I have to 'rap' as well as everything else. Will Morrissey ever 'get' rap or will he go to his grave a rap-virgin?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daft bint

http://talklikeabrummieday.co.uk/

here's a resource for you to take gratuitous offence at :

http://ipaddyapp.com/

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! Birmingham 1 Dublin 2. Second-half about to kick off!

First off, I don't know any blacks who look to Malcolm X's ideologies, writings, or speeches for inspiration. He was a radical separatist. Obama is no fan.

Secondly, the term cracker is like the term redneck or white trash. It more or less describes a subculture of white people who exhibit certain behavior traits that CAN BE changed. In other words, the traits are freely chosen rather than ascribed at birth. Yank describes all people living in one country regardless of any other traits or characteristics they may or may not share. And because nationality is ascribed at birth like race and gender, it seems unfair to discriminate based upon that trait alone. And that is exactly what you were doing.

Crackers can change if they choose. And please don't tell me it is offensive to be called white. It isn't. You know it and I know it. People in power, who are deemed to be of greater value because of real or imagined reasons, are not insulted when they are told they belong to this privileged group.
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

First off, I don't know any blacks who look to Malcolm X's ideologies, writings, or speeches for inspiration. He was a radical separatist. Obama is no fan.

Secondly, the term cracker is like the term redneck or white trash. It more or less describes a subculture of white people who exhibit certain behavior traits that CAN BE changed. In other words, the traits are freely chosen rather than ascribed at birth. Yank describes all people living in one country regardless of any other traits or characteristics they may or may not share. And because nationality is ascribed at birth like race and gender, it seems unfair to discriminate based upon that trait alone. And that is exactly what you were doing.

Crackers can change if they choose. And please don't tell me it is offensive to be called white. It isn't. You know it and I know it. People in power, who are deemed to be of greater value because of real or imagined reasons, are not insulted when they are told they belong to this privileged group.

Thanks for that, clueless Yanke honky bint. I'm the ultimate cracker mad plastic paddy Brummie Boy. White? Are you mad? Celtic, yes. Saxon, yes. Basque, perhaps. Blood group's one of the rarest. I'm Original Celt uber-Paddy, "Celtic blood, Saxon Heart", etc. Don't try and hang any Emo shoegazing guilt trip on me. My recent ancestors died in a 'famine' that was a cultural and religious genocide by the Norman Toraigh Whore White Viking Francs who've been doing that crap since 1066. Idiots like you trying to corral folk like me into some 'white guilt ghetto' is pathetic.
What makes you think 'crackers' want to change? Oh, the multi-kulti crap rather than the 'equal but different' logical stuff? Joe Bageant got it half right, half wrong. I'm not in power, you daft eejit. And I'm not 'white' unlike the oppressor black evangelical American's talking shit on LGBTQI stuff. At least the Westboro Baptist Church are funny as fcuk! Take your social worker 'crackers can change' crap to them and see how you get on with policing language on your side of the pond. Don't try it here, we have free speech as well, unless you defame a Lord or a Cardinal or you're really clever and know how to almost, but not quite, cross the line:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
You obviously only know coffee-table blacks who don't read Marcus Garvey, never mind Malcom X. O'bama is a dud: I'm no fan. Cracker culture is one of the oldest surviving British tribal ideologies. Memes are as formative as genes. Start with Dr Susan Blackmore and her taken on Dawkin's coinage of 'meme'. 'Yank' in fact refers to whatever the user has in their mind, like most words, hence the futility of P.C censorship agendas like yours, which are doomed. Nationality is not ascribed at birth, it can be changed. Madonna almost, but not quite, found her way home to "Sicily In The Rain" when she searched these Isles of Wonder for 'Andy Warhol 2.0' (smirk) and almost found me, but I arranged a decoy. LOL!
Danny Boyle was on the case too, but we weren't interested, might be now after his Olympic 'Isles of Wonder' opening ceremony. Hey, Danny! We'll do the rom-com, if you'll do the stage set for the 2021 tour. Deal?
Final word, as you're becoming a bit of a face-time attention whore sniffing round my online pheremones and I'm bored of you: I Love America. I am absolutely as obsessed with American as I am with Britain, Ireland, Iceland and the Antipodes. I'm also obsessed with reggae music, cuz y'know I'm a wide-boy 2-Tone Zulu Brummie Boy, not that that will mean anything to someone who thinks NYC is the centre of world culture.
9:30 am. Breakfast time and hourly check for unmarked police cars and surveillance vans. It's like the Papal Visit all over again! Hilarious.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12599/Guy-stars-British-love.html
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=black irish
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1094/who-are-the-black-irish
http://beingirishwhatarewelike.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/6-black-people/
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Director+Danny's+vision+for+Brum.-a0297926292
http://www.queerty.com/nfl-approved-super-bowl-gospel-celebration-stacked-with-lgbt-foes-20130129/
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

Thanks for that, clueless Yanke honky bint. I'm the ultimate cracker mad plastic paddy Brummie Boy. White? Are you mad? Celtic, yes. Saxon, yes. Basque, perhaps. Blood group's one of the rarest. I'm Original Celt uber-Paddy, "Celtic blood, Saxon Heart", etc. Don't try and hang any Emo shoegazing guilt trip on me. My recent ancestors died in a 'famine' that was a cultural and religious genocide by the Norman Toraigh Whore White Viking Francs who've been doing that crap since 1066. Idiots like you trying to corral folk like me into some 'white guilt ghetto' is pathetic.
What makes you think 'crackers' want to change? Oh, the multi-kulti crap rather than the 'equal but different' logical stuff? Joe Bageant got it half right, half wrong. I'm not in power, you daft eejit. And I'm not 'white' unlike the oppressor black evangelical American's talking shit on LGBTQI stuff. At least the Westboro Baptist Church are funny as fcuk! Take your social worker 'crackers can change' crap to them and see how you get on with policing language on your side of the pond. Don't try it here, we have free speech as well, unless you defame a Lord or a Cardinal or you're really clever and know how to almost, but not quite, cross the line:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
You obviously only know coffee-table blacks who don't read Marcus Garvey, never mind Malcom X. O'bama is a dud: I'm no fan. Cracker culture is one of the oldest surviving British tribal ideologies. Memes are as formative as genes. Start with Dr Susan Blackmore and her taken on Dawkin's coinage of 'meme'. 'Yank' in fact refers to whatever the user has in their mind, like most words, hence the futility of P.C censorship agendas like yours, which are doomed. Nationality is not ascribed at birth, it can be changed. Madonna almost, but not quite, found her way home to "Sicily In The Rain" when she searched these Isles of Wonder for 'Andy Warhol 2.0' (smirk) and almost found me, but I arranged a decoy. LOL!
Danny Boyle was on the case too, but we weren't interested, might be now after his Olympic 'Isles of Wonder' opening ceremony. Hey, Danny! We'll do the rom-com, if you'll do the stage set for the 2021 tour. Deal?
Final word, as you're becoming a bit of a face-time attention whore sniffing round my online pheremones and I'm bored of you: I Love America. I am absolutely as obsessed with American as I am with Britain, Ireland, Iceland and the Antipodes. I'm also obsessed with reggae music, cuz y'know I'm a wide-boy 2-Tone Zulu Brummie Boy, not that that will mean anything to someone who thinks NYC is the centre of world culture.
9:30 am. Breakfast time and hourly check for unmarked police cars and surveillance vans. It's like the Papal Visit all over again! Hilarious.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12599/Guy-stars-British-love.html
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=black irish
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1094/who-are-the-black-irish
http://beingirishwhatarewelike.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/6-black-people/
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Director+Danny's+vision+for+Brum.-a0297926292
http://www.queerty.com/nfl-approved-super-bowl-gospel-celebration-stacked-with-lgbt-foes-20130129/

I'm discontinuing this discussion with you. You seem unable to sling insults my way. And this is not a productive manner in which to engage in a meaningful conversation. I honestly can't see past your putdowns. :(
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

I'm discontinuing this discussion with you. You seem unable to sling insults my way. And this is not a productive manner in which to engage in a meaningful conversation. I honestly can't see past your putdowns. :(

The door is clearly marked with an 'Exit' neon sign above it. Don't bang it on your way out. And re-read your silly parting comment: I "seem unable to sling insults" your way, yet you "honestly can't see past" my putdowns. Doesn't make sense. Keep up your blog, I love reading it...
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

The door is clearly marked with an 'Exit' neon sign above it. Don't bang it on your way out. And re-read your silly parting comment: I "seem unable to sling insults" your way, yet you "honestly can't see past" my putdowns. Doesn't make sense. Keep up your blog, I love reading it...

I can't see past your insults... meaning they are keeping me from being able to read the rest of what you write with a clear, objective perspective. I am automatically put on the defense and feel a bit angry. Is the blog comment another dig? Or do you really read it and find value in it?
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

I can't see past your insults... meaning they are keeping me from being able to read the rest of what you write with a clear, objective perspective. I am automatically put on the defense and feel a bit angry. Is the blog comment another dig? Or do you really read it and find value in it?

You try to appear as some sort of intellectual but it's not working so you decide to leave the thread (except you're still here) as a victim. My advice would be to stay in your lane, meaning you should only argue with people that are less handy with wikipedia than you are.
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

I can see why you post anonymously. This comment reads like a cry for help. You clearly have a number of complex inter-related issues to do with your childhood, mothering, LGBTIQ freedom and many other issues. I've guessed English is your second language? But don't worry, your unexamined trauma expressed as bigotry shines through. Margaret Thatcher had a very cold, unloving childhood and in that were the roots of her visceral hatred of convivial working class families and culture. Her own daughter has expressed really very challenging views about her mother's work/life balance, such as to suggest that Margaret Thatcher's reasons for having children are open to examination just as much, if not more, than any minority sexuality parents. Morrissey played an incredibly sophisticated game with sexual politics: he was overtly non-male in a era when being such was supposedly tolerated, yet viscious legistlation like Clause 28 was put into effect. Morrissey, as far as I can tell, was in effect saying: "I know a lot of hip trendy people are cavorting around being openly gay but I know and you know that in most provincial areas there is no such freedom and most people live lives where to be overt is to risk being attacked. I will, therefore, expose this bogus situation with relish, because I am a pathfinder artist". Lots of people think Morrissey should make a definitive statement now that career closet cases like Elton, O'Dowd and George Michael have 'come out' or were outed by their indiscretions in the case of George Michael. suddenly those pop stars can't stfu about how totally gay and right-on they are having been advised for years to not reveal. Expecting Moz to make some kind of definitive statement is an act of oppression unless he's secretly living some definable gay or straight life and is thus a hypocrite to still remain in an ambivalent interzone like me. I am totally 'out' and have been since I was 10, but people just thought i'd read too many Marc Bolan interviews in Jackie. I get really tired of 'cult' gays saying I just haven't made up my mind, and it's hilarious when Rupert Everett denounces the 'lifestyle' as a waste of time cult like the Catholic church. There's a serious investigative journalism issue as to how much Thatcher knew about Jimmy Savile as it is inconcievable that he became both a Royal and a Papal Knight without MI5/MI6 doing the checks on him. I'm followed online and off 24/7/365 FFS! and I'm a nobody, allegedly. So how could Savile have stayed under the radar? He wasn't. He was protected by people like the South Yorks Police and the Catholic church. Thatcher's reaction to Hillsboro is being scrutinised by my team as we work through the thousands of hidden PDF's which though online, cannot be searched by web crawlers. We've had to download them all and read them in Adobe to find the smoking guns. And there's lots of them. Next, we turn to The Battle of Orgreave. At some stage we may release some music, but political praxis is far more nourishing and satisfying. I do not know which country you hail from, but we will be very involved in doing work to help Fr Shay Cullen's Preda organisation 'going forward' [sic] Freedom for adult sexuality is not the same as freedom to abuse children or teenagers. You are seriously confused and should sit down with a skilled therapist. I always announce myself as a gay,vegan atheist if I have the slightest sniff of intolerance in my nostrils. It gets rid of an enormous amount of flotsam and jestsam socially, both online and off, even it I'm actually far more complex and nuanced. Sometimes blunt politics is the only way. When Morrissey tore off his shirt on TOTP to do the lipstick "Initiate me!" it was as effective as Bowie's "Starman". If he does nothing else he changed teh culture for the better. I sometimes have fun in really rough pubs by giving blokes 'the look' just to see how they react. It's often hilarious, though sometimes they do freak out and try to get violent, which is never a smart idea with a psychopath. I only do it to blokes who stare at women, ignore signs from those women to 'piss off' and think they have a god-given right to leer but not be leered at by King Leer. When they've stopped sulking, I usually cop off with the woman they were after just to rub salt into the wound. It's just how us bisexual, bicultural, bi-polar BrummieBoys roll! Of course, I might be a middle-aged, middle-england uber-conservative Dad and it's all an act. But no-one will ever know, just like Moz, one hopes. He was very supportive of Jimmy Somerville who, alone, with one song, said all that ever needs to be said. "Smalltown Boy" was just as important as "This Charming Man" and Morrissey knew it. But not every wee lad in Glasgow wants to spend the next 30 years clubbing and fcukin in bushes in Hyde Park. That's why gay marriage is so important. I've not heard Moz opine on that topic but he won't outdo Rupert Everett for shock tactics. I've written a long reply to you because I'm concerned about you. I hope you're in your first flush of adult life so there's still time to change before you become totally embittered about other people's choices. I wish you well. I hope you find happiness either alone or in the arms of someone who loves you.

http://www.preda.org/main/work/frcullen.html

"train, heave on to New Street.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuz94ZIPfJk

hey! Jimmy! get in touch dude....via Tatchell. I owe you the mother of all shags..LOL!

thanks for publicizing the mission to take children out of slavery. brilliant post.
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

You try to appear as some sort of intellectual but it's not working so you decide to leave the thread (except you're still here) as a victim. My advice would be to stay in your lane, meaning you should only argue with people that are less handy with wikipedia than you are.

Is that you Geezer? You are obsessed with the word intellectual.

I don't try to appear as anything other than what I am.

Wikipedia battle? Is that what this is? Oh how quaint is that? A six year old can copy and paste links. It takes a sharp mind to formulate one's own ideas in a fresh way. Clearly you are not one who understands this process.

I never posted in this thread as some authority on Thatcherism. I posted in response to Brummie's use of the word Yank.
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

You try to appear as some sort of intellectual but it's not working so you decide to leave the thread (except you're still here) as a victim. My advice would be to stay in your lane, meaning you should only argue with people that are less handy with wikipedia than you are.

Is that you Geezer? You are obsessed with the word intellectual.

I don't try to appear as anything other than what I am.

Wikipedia battle? Is that what this is? Oh how quaint is that? A six year old can copy and paste links. It takes a sharp mind to formulate one's own ideas in a fresh way. Clearly you are not one who understands this process.

I never posted in this thread as some authority on Thatcherism. I posted in response to Brummie's use of the word Yank.

You are barking at the wrong tree.
Set the record straight, CrystalGeezer does not post anonymously in this thread.

The above anonymous user asked to delete his account to site administrator, but keeps posting anonymously.

His post was approved by other moderator who is not familiar with his posts.
 
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You are barking at the wrong tree.
Set the record straight, CrystalGeezer does not post anonymously in this thread.

The above anonymous user was Dave who asked to delete his account to site administrator, but keeps posting anonymously.

His post was approved by other moderator who is not familiar with his posts.

Thanks Kewpie.

Dave from California? AKA, Mouthful of Pie? I know that twit from Morrissey Music. Major troll. Was obsessed with me for a while. I wonder if he is responsible for some of the other hostile, anonymous posts directed at me?
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

Thanks Kewpie.

Dave from California? AKA, Mouthful of Pie? I know that twit from Morrissey Music. Major troll. Was obsessed with me for a while. I wonder if he is responsible for some of the other hostile, anonymous posts directed at me?

dave is a homosexual. i'm not sure why he would be obsessed with you, other than jealousy. listen to kewpie, don't bark AT the wrong tree!
 
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dave is a homosexual. i'm not sure why he would be obsessed with you, other than jealousy. listen to kewpie, don't bark AT the wrong tree!

I don't mean obsessed in a romantic or sexual way.

However, I don't know if jealousy was his motive.
 
Re: Article: Margaret Thatcher dead: Morrissey blasts former PM as "barbaric" just ho

I saw my name mentioned above, I just got here. And I don't post anonymously on any thread. There is more than one person in the world that thinks you're an idiot. :p

But SNL's take on Thatcher last night was hilarious. :D I hope British people can view hulu.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/478685
 
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Set the record straight, CrystalGeezer does not post anonymously in this thread.

So what thread does she post anonymously under?
 

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