Why do you believe in god so?
Difficult question to answer, in fact I'm not sure I can. Belief is something that is really hard to explain. Overall I think religion can be a very life-affirming, comforting thing. Does it bother you?
Difficult question to answer, in fact I'm not sure I can. Belief is something that is really hard to explain. Overall I think religion can be a very life-affirming, comforting thing. Does it bother you?
that such a large percentage of people believe in something based on faith is harmful to humanity in that we should always be seeking out the factual, scientific proof no matter how we feel about it. i feel like we are delaying progress by tricking ourselves about religion. faith, by definition, has no factual or rational basis and shouldn't even be considered a rival to science.
That's all very well, but your arguement surely fails on the vast number of remarkable scientists etc who have held strong religious beliefs over the last 2000 or so years who made huge discoveries and break throughs.
Roger Bacon in the 13th century for example was a massive influence on what is now the standard 'scientific method'. Or take the example of Theodoric of Freiberg who was the first person to work out exactly what a rainbow was. Based on your above comment one would presume he would think "well God just makes colour appear" but he didn't. Galileo Galilei was a Christian and it didn't stop him from pissing off the establishment in the Church by what he was doing. Issac Newton is another note worth religious scientist who didn't just presume things happened because God made them but wanted to know why the apple fell from the tree etc. The Big Bang Theory was first developed by a Catholic priest - Georges Lemaître so he was another man with faith who wanted to know why and how things happened.
Almost every scientific discovery prior to the Napoleonic Wars would be attributed to a person of faith, and a hell of a lot of them afterwards as well. So unless you're suggesting that without religion we'd all be living on Mars and hanging and banging with aliens these days I would have to disagree with your post.
you may have slightly misinterpreted what i was getting at. i'm saying that TODAY, GENERALLY, MOST of the people i ask to explain the basis for their religious beliefs say faith and can't back it up further. also, my point was not at all to say that religious people are incapable of scientific breakthroughs or accomplishments? i'm saying that there is no scientific backing for faith or most religious beliefs. by making progress i meant in terms of what is acceptable to be discussed in public and taught in schools.
I've never understood how some aethists get angry at people who believe in God or whatever, as is it has anything to do with them anyway.
But I despise the people who use religion to try and propagate their backward views. Simple things like radical views on homosexuality etc. I find that sort of stuff madness and in a way quite depressing.. And I think if religion plays a more dominant role in how societies are run I believe the world would be regressing. So I just think it should be marginalised. Just look at Ireland and what religious dominace did. Same goes for strict Islamic countries. People are just living such limited and restricted lives for the most ludicrious of reasons.
Looking at the "Does God Exist?" thread, I noticed an overwhelming proportion of atheists, so I've created this thread to hear some opinions from people who do have faith
Which religion do you follow, and how important is your faith to you?
No...I agree with all you said there. I think it's really great when you see people feeling confident because of their belief and I think religion can help people feel like they are part of a community and that's of course a good thing.
But I despise the people who use religion to try and propagate their backward views. Simple things like radical views on homosexuality etc. I find that sort of stuff madness and in a way quite depressing.. And I think if religion plays a more dominant role in how societies are run I believe the world would be regressing. So I just think it should be marginalised. Just look at Ireland and what religious dominace did. Same goes for strict Islamic countries. People are just living such limited and restricted lives for the most ludicrious of reasons.
If I'm not mistaken, Amy created this thread for believers to discuss their faith, not atheist debate or boorish humanist sermonizing. Can't you do this on one of the 84,282 other threads given over to bashing religion? This is getting old.Why do you believe in god so?
If I'm not mistaken, Amy created this thread for believers to discuss their faith, not atheist debate or boorish humanist sermonizing. Can't you do this on one of the 84,282 other threads given over to bashing religion? This is getting old.
With respect, I'm not propagating anything.
With respect, I'm not propagating anything. People of all faiths are welcome to reply to this thread, and I created it because I thought it would be interesting to find out about religions other than my own, eg. Islam, Judaism, etc etc. The problem with religion is that of course, some people will take it too far, missing the point of what it is all about. My faith is important to me, but there are some aspects of the Bible I find offensive and so I choose not to endorse (one example of this is, as you said, having homosexuals killed and adulterers, and so on. I imagine similar unpleasantness is in many holy books.