Harvest ends contract with Morrissey - TTY

Re: Harvest Ends Contract with Morrissey - TTY

Moontastic with the name there, buddy. Seeya in 20 minutes.

 

[Anonymous]

If Moz was Ant and Dec the world and his brother would be begging to sign him lol, just joking, but only the boring get appreciated in UK! Morrissey is a unique singer, poet and author. Joyce is a session drummer at the end of the day, Marr was good, Moz was brilliant, the rest are very replaceable (and I am stone/tone deaf) so Harvest were too dim to see the light, they lost, Morrissey is way too unique for a dull label, or any label TBH. Behind every good man is amuse, liquid or otherwise. OLO.

 

[liquidmuse3]

I think Mike Joyce is a very good drummer.

Read my posts over the past many years and I have never said anything but good things about his drumming. I think he's quite good for the sound and style of The Smiths. Neil Peart would either be very bored as a Smith or destroy the songs.

Now, if I were to go see a Smiths reunion tour I'd find that the best lineup would include Joyce and even Gannon to play rhythm guitar but if The Smiths reformed with Moz, Johnny, Andrew Paresi and Andy Rourke I don't think it would have very much impact on how excited people would be.

I can't imagine going.. Wow, tickets are $200.. I'd pay it if Joyce was there but without him that's a $75 show.

Morrissey and Marr on stage together under ANY name is worth top dollar regardless of who else joins them.

Agreed. "Anonymous" (no surprise) misread my point---I understand a million jazz & fusion guys are better than Peart & Carey (hence, the "rock context"). Plus, I'm not really into prog a ton, but my point was, those two gentlemen are absolutely central to what people pay to see in their bands. They both play artistically inclined solos, which people paying the fare look forward to. Nobody is paying for Mike Joyce. If a miracle occurs, OF COURSE I'd prefer if he was in a reincarnated Smiths. But to say 1)it shouldn't happen without him 2)you & others shouldn't be happy about it unless he was there is just ludicrous to me. No offense.

I mean, I keep bringing up the Zep example---people were out of their minds at the idea of a Zep tour a couple years ago, KNOWING Bonzo (obviously) couldn't be there. And I'd easily argue John Bonham was more central to the essence of Zep's sound than Mr. Joyce & The Smiths (plus, with Joyce's legal action, he might as well be dead to Morrissey & Marr).

 

[Anonymous]

Agreed. "Anonymous" (no surprise) misread my point---I understand a million jazz & fusion guys are better than Peart & Carey (hence, the "rock context"). Plus, I'm not really into prog a ton, but my point was, those two gentlemen are absolutely central to what people pay to see in their bands. They both play artistically inclined solos, which people paying the fare look forward to. Nobody is paying for Mike Joyce. If a miracle occurs, OF COURSE I'd prefer if he was in a reincarnated Smiths. But to say 1)it shouldn't happen without him 2)you & others shouldn't be happy about it unless he was there is just ludicrous to me. No offense.

I mean, I keep bringing up the Zep example---people were out of their minds at the idea of a Zep tour a couple years ago, KNOWING Bonzo (obviously) couldn't be there. And I'd easily argue John Bonham was more central to the essence of Zep's sound than Mr. Joyce & The Smiths (plus, with Joyce's legal action, he might as well be dead to Morrissey & Marr).

And there's an object lesson in how a muso sucks all the life out of music.

 

[manicboy]

Re: Harvest Ends Contract with Morrissey - TTY

Can't say I didn't see this coming with the scant promotion of WPINOYB. I'm sure both sides will blame each other (Moz has already done so) but there's enough blame to go around. No tour, TV, and 1 print interview with Hot Mess. Moz even predicted this with his song, You Know I Couldn't Last, "CDs and T-shirts, promos and God knows,You know I couldn't last, Someone please take me home, There's a cash register ringing and, It weighs so heavy on my back, Someone please take me home". And of course, the song ends with the prophetic words, "The Squalor of the mind". Says it all really.

And to those clamouring for a Smiths reunion, will Joyce suddenly stop hitting up Moz for all the millions in back royalties? Even if Joyce did so, do anyone think Moz would forgive him in his lifetime? Moz didn't write 100 page in his Autobio just for laughs, you know.

Where to now? Another tour, album, or just lie low for a few years? God & Moz only know.

 

[Satlook]

Frustrated? Moi? Not at all! I haven't had this much fun since Dynasty was on. Morrissey has turned self-destruction into an art form. And I am loving it.

Morrissey's life is not opera, it's soap opera!

Oke,
But why do you bother to continue making negative about Morrissey out?
Just curiosity of mine.
I don't understand ?

 

[Anonymous]

I understand a million jazz & fusion guys are better than Peart & Carey (hence, the "rock context").

O noes, who let the hippy in!??

 

[liquidmuse3]

Here's a picture of Rush for visual reference.

I mean, you could have the best drummer in the world but a band that looks and dresses like that is never going to make great music, are they???

Are you kidding me with that? In the 70's, everybody dressed like that. One could say "PSSST, look at Bowie...anybody who dresses like that couldn't possibly make good music". A bit silly.

I like all the cool & critically accepted alt. rock bands, & have for 30 years now. But Rush snuck in there, mostly based on their 80's output, which led to a like of the 90's & 2000's & an appreciation of their 70's. They generally write pop songs, an amped up Police with a spacey & tough groove. I just think it's massively funny I somehow inspired getting a Rush pic in a Morrissey thread ;o) . And FWIW, Rush stayed together for 40 years, because they're mature adults...something Marr & Moz have both proven they often are not (in a band relationship).

 

[Anonymous]

And FWIW, Rush stayed together for 40 years, because they're mature adults...something Marr & Moz have both proven they often are not (in a band relationship).

Or because they were too dull to split up.

 

[Anonymous]

A bit silly.

 

[liquidmuse3]

And there's an object lesson in how a muso sucks all the life out of music.

God, you're insufferable. Not a muso in the least. THE SMITHS ARE MY FAVOURITE BAND. Holy cow, you act like I'm holding you to the sacred writ of sheet music & time signatures. At this point I honestly think you're trolling.

 

[Anonymous]

Moz can write like a God. What the F... is he doing trying to fit into a label/music industry suit of any kind. Give it up. Do a concert a couple of times a year (and keep the bank account high) and get your fat ass over to Ireland and live a good life and be the beautiful writer you are. End Off.

 

[Anonymous]

Best drummer in the world? Have you not heard of John Bonham?

I didn't mean that I thought Peart was the best drummer in the world. That's what those two hippies seem to think.
And, yes, Bonham f***ing ROCKS, dude!!!!

 

[liquidmuse3]

Or because they were too dull to split up.

Yup...a myriad of styles, still playing arenas, still releasing top-5 albums, Hall of Fame inductee, & influenced every major band (non-new wave division) of the last 25 years. Keep trollin'...

 

[Anonymous]

Yup...a myriad of styles

And all of them dull as dishwater.
Seriously, dude, it's f***ing RUSH!!!!
Who let the hippies in!?

 

[Anonymous]

Rush are hideous shit btw that absolutely no one of sound mind should be proud of appreciating.
I mean ffs!!!

The drummer and his kit in Rush is just a circus act to be fair.
Saw him playing Manchester on a stupid 360 degree kit that spun round like something out of a James Bond film, playing drum solos for 37 minutes at a time ! Bored the tits off me to be honest, does he really need all those drums ? Surely he's a xylophone player but with a stupid gimmick kit ( and a tiny winky I suspect ).

Benny-the-British-Butcher

 

[liquidmuse3]

I didn't mean that I thought Peart was the best drummer in the world. That's what those two hippies seem to think.
And, yes, Bonham f***ing ROCKS, dude!!!!

Yeah, a lot of hippies are into The Smiths, Depeche, New Order, The Cure, Interpol, Warpaint, U2 (1st 3 albums please), with Tool & Rush the main outliers. And no, Peart isn't the best, & I never said he was. The fact you inferred that shows your reading comprehension isn't quite up to par, in my opinion. And get off Anon, you twat.
Is Peart the most famous right now? Sure. HENCE MY POINT. So you're saying there should be no Smiths without Mike freakin' Joyce. Talk about sucking the life out of the enjoyment of music.

 

[liquidmuse3]

And all of them dull as dishwater.
Seriously, dude, it's f***ing RUSH!!!!
Who let the hippies in!?

I really can't deal with you anymore. You've shown you have the musical & cultural depth of a wet noodle. If you've not heard more than 5 Rush songs, you simply can't comment, yet you deign yourself worthy to do so. And you're literally the only person in the world who thinks "Rush" = "hippie".
But I'm glad you wasted time finding Rush pictures, & only the most 70's ones at that. Well played.

 

[Chickpea]

Not true. Simon Gallup has been in the band the entire time as well, with the exception of a couple of years in the early 80's.

Simon Gallup didn't even join the band until their second album, and was absent for everything released between Pornography and Head on the Door.

So yeah, that's exactly what I meant by "Robert Smith is the only constant, and the only original member. Everyone else has come and gone (and come again) over the years." That's not debatable!

 

[CrystalGeezer]

Steve Barnett is January: "Morrissey is clearly one of music’s most important and influential artists. He is the rare soul who has stayed consistently true to his artistic vision and ethical principles since he first exploded onto the scene in the 1980s. We are so happy that he has chosen Capitol Music Group as his home and that his forthcoming album on Harvest will bring new Morrissey music to the world.”

Steve Barnett 8 months later: "Get the f*** outta here, mush" (or words to that effect).

Obviously something's gone tits up. Presumably if sales were strong they wouldn't mind Morrissey an being awkward bugger to work with, and constantly surrounded by controversy, but I guess he's just not worth the effort in terms of bringing in the loot. Either that, or McDonalds has bought a stake in the company.

Sad, really.

This is a nightmare. I guess I can add my real name to the list of people who need to be gassed or shot or hung or whatever. fml

 

[Anonymous]

Hahahaha......Moz...contrary to what you think, you are NOT the center of the Universe and I suspect that Harvest found a loophole in the 2-record contract based on Moz`s comments. What happened to Attack records? Let's see if the "personnel" stick around.