ThePoliticalRevolution
Well-Known Member
fagI didn’t say he had to...
fagI didn’t say he had to...
@GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn
maybe I’m reaching with this one ...
“All men have secrets and here is mine
So let it be known”
Though the right lyric is ‘Late afternoon’ in Patti Smith’s Redondo Beach, Morrissey sings it as he always heard it ... ‘Let it be known’.
‘Late afternoon, dreaming hotel
We just had the quarrel that sent you away’
- Smith
‘Let it be known
a dreaming hotel
we just had a quarrel
I sent you away’
- Morrissey
Patti Smith’s Redondo Beach (actually about her sister) has been interpreted as a gay song, in this case between two women.
Horses was a huge influence on Morrissey, so I wouldn’t be surprised if
Patti’s song was on Morrissey’s mind when writing “What Difference Does It Make?” even if only subconsciously.
Wow, I like this idea.@GirlAfraidWillNeverLearn
maybe I’m reaching with this one ...
“All men have secrets and here is mine
So let it be known”
Though the right lyric is ‘Late afternoon’ in Patti Smith’s Redondo Beach, Morrissey sings it as he always heard it ... ‘Let it be known’.
‘Late afternoon, dreaming hotel
We just had the quarrel that sent you away’
- Smith
‘Let it be known
a dreaming hotel
we just had a quarrel
I sent you away’
- Morrissey
Patti Smith’s Redondo Beach (actually about her sister) has been interpreted as a gay song, in this case between two women.
Horses was a huge influence on Morrissey, so I wouldn’t be surprised if
Patti’s song was on Morrissey’s mind when writing “What Difference Does It Make?” even if only subconsciously.
You do realise all those songs can be seen from a straight perspective too?I've never thought about which song is his most (homo)erotic, because all of his songs are very gay and many are very erotic.
I think there's so much innuendo especially in his early Smiths lyrics, as has been mentioned. From meeting someone who's in need of "self-validation" behind the railway station ("It's all over my face...") and getting "something that I won't forget too soon" behind the dis-used railway line, to slapping and "pinning" on the patio, to the icy cold hands conducting their way and swaying juvenile impulses of Stretch Out And Wait, there's always been a lot of sex in his lyrics.
Wide To Receive is a great song, beautifully sung and the lyrics are very clever and open to interpretation while at the same time very blunt.
Wow, I like this idea.
I have to think about it and re-listen to both versions.
I have to admit, I never considered the possibility of Redondo Beach being about a lesbian couple, but I always knew that she wrote it after a fight with her sister. Luckily the real story had a happy ending, unlike the song.
Well, the subject of I Want The One I Can't Have is "a tough boy who sometimes swallows nails" and it would be rather unusual if he was pinned and mounted by a female partner, but yeah, I do realise that anyone can interpret these songs in whatever way they like.You do realise all those songs can be seen from a straight perspective too?
There is nothing saying those songs are gay leaning, the songs are just about sex, not about sexual preferences.
A lot of songs are related to homosexuality (and not really "humansexuality").
I understood his "I'm not sorry" that way the first time I've head it and I still think of it that way:
"The woman of my dreams, Well, There never was one
And I'm, Not sorry for, For the things I've said
There's a wild man in my head,"
i.e, "There isn't a woman in my dreams, there's a man".
But his was already doing it in his early solo times... Picadilly Palare can be considered a song about being gay.
Other than that, you'll find homophobic idiots here, which simply means that people are stupid... in most cases you can simply pretend that they don't exist because discussions with some people simple lead to... I don't know where, but probably not any interesting place!
Did they have strap-ons in 1983? Paging any historians who might know....it would be rather unusual if he was pinned and mounted by a female partner...
Well I know loadsa straight Moz fans who sing those songs from a straight perspective and their love lives have quite often had gaps where it's been difficult to find a partner, myself included. The wrong thing that's going on here is songs that are entirely open to interpretation are being hijacked by a group of gay fans as being 'gay' songs by an out & out 'gay' singer. Totally missing the point.Well, the subject of I Want The One I Can't Have is "a tough boy who sometimes swallows nails" and it would be rather unusual if he was pinned and mounted by a female partner, but yeah, I do realise that anyone can interpret these songs in whatever way they like.
However, since the singer and lyricist of these songs is not straight, I have always interpreted them accordingly.
Edit: In my experience, women are also less likely to leave something "all over your face" after receiving "self-validation", but it's not a physical impossibility of course.
Did they have strap-ons in 1983? Paging any historians who might know.
Well I know loadsa straight Moz fans who sing those songs from a straight perspective and their love lives have quite often had gaps where it's been difficult to find a partner, myself included. The wrong thing that's going on here is songs that are entirely open to interpretation are being hijacked by a group of gay fans as being 'gay' songs by an out & out 'gay' singer. Totally missing the point.
Did they have strap-ons in 1983? Paging any historians who might know.
the wild man in my head is depression,he said so in an interview which should be easy to find once you exit here.
interesting, yes erotic, though never thought of the fellatio angle on that cover, but sure.
Did they have strap-ons in 1983? Paging any historians who might know.
Well, I said "unusual", not impossible.Did they have strap-ons in 1983? Paging any historians who might know.