Morrissey is anti-immigrant backs a white nationalist party. Why don’t fans care? - LA Times

Morrissey is anti-immigrant and backs a white nationalist political party. Why don’t fans care? - Los Angeles Times
By Randall Roberts

The singer, who plays the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, has always enjoyed a special bond with his Southern California fans. But could hateful remarks about immigrants spoil that?

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Los Angeles Councilwoman Rodriguez, who facilitated the city’s 2017 Morrissey Day celebration, stresses this distinction between art and artist. Asked whether the singer’s recent provocations have caused her to reassess her fandom or the wisdom of her resolution, she says no. “Morrissey has had a long history of saying controversial commentary about England and the monarchy. I think it’s part of what he has always been.” She and her family have tickets to Saturday’s Bowl concert.

On a larger level, Rodriguez adds, “Everyone in this country and anywhere, in my belief, is entitled to their opinions, even if I am not a proponent of that mindset.” Artists have permission to be controversial, she says. “It is, by nature, art.”

That doesn’t mean Morrissey should get a pass, says Nic Harcourt, a morning drive-time DJ for KCSN and music supervisor. For a long time, Harcourt chose to laugh off many of Morrissey’s public rows. The singer even did a guest DJ session with Harcourt when the latter hosted “Mornings Become Eclectic” on KCRW.

“He’s always flirted with this right-wing thing. This didn’t just suddenly happen,” Harcourt says. Something has shifted, though, and it prompted a reckoning. “When he made it so obvious earlier this year, I decided I wasn’t going to play his music anymore on the radio.” (Harcourt stresses that he’s speaking as a DJ and not as a spokesman for KCSN.)

Morrissey’s manager, Katsis, said that most frustrating to him is that, artistically, his client is at the top of his game. The shows have been phenomenal, but the media is focused on what Morrissey says offstage. “It’s just his opinion, and it’s taken as gospel. That’s the most bizarre part of it.”

Katsis adds, “Everyone keeps repeating that Morrissey said, ‘The Chinese are a subspecies.’ That comment was made about the Chinese government, and everybody has problems with the way they treat people.” Katsis says that he recently received a request from a promoter for his client to play concerts in China. Morrissey wants to play there but wondered, “Do you think they’d let me in the country?”

Such tensions can drive great art, and can prompt an essential question on fandom: Which is more powerful, the thrill that rushes into your spirit when you connect with a song or album, or the disappointment that comes with realizing you don’t share essential values with its creator?

“Fandom is very personal,” says “Mozlandia” author Hidalgo. “It’s about the self. It’s selfish. You’re going to like something you like, and no one in the world is going to tell you not to do it. Because if they tell you not to do it, you’ll do it even more.”


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Did he say eating dogs is worse than eating cows?

Wouldn’t you agree that an animal rights activist would think both actions are disgusting?

And wouldn’t you agree that even ignorant subspecies types that continue to eat animals in this day and age would think that eating dogs is worse than eating cows ?

Regardless of who is being cruel to animals they in the eyes of an animal activist would be considered a subspecies, ignorant, etc. In the interview they just so happen to be talking about Chinese people who are cruel to animals, not all Chinese people.

The issue I have with the above is that if Morrissey took out a machine gun, at one of his gigs, and began firing into the crowd Ketamine Sun would go out of f the way to blame the audience.
 
How many years ago was it that you were caught on camera, multiple times, in the front row when Morrissey performed for the BBC? 2014, wasn’t it? Bopping away, clapping and cheering and loving it.

You’re angry because Morrissey doesn’t love you as much as you love him. You thought you were inner circle, and you aren’t, and it f***ing kills you.

f*** you, f*** you, f*** racism, f*** jealousy, f*** bitterness, f*** your woe-is-me attitude, f*** you and, uhhhh, f*** you.

the most astonishing thing about this idiot Skinny. Wakes up at 05:27, and first thing, logs onto a site dedicated to a singer he claims to hate, in order to get his first post of the day. Then subsequently spends all day on here. Hardly constructive and highly hypocritical.
 
Did he say eating dogs is worse than eating cows?

Wouldn’t you agree that an animal rights activist would think both actions are disgusting?

And wouldn’t you agree that even ignorant subspecies types that continue to eat animals in this day and age would think that eating dogs is worse than eating cows ?

Regardless of who is being cruel to animals they in the eyes of an animal activist would be considered a subspecies, ignorant, etc. In the interview they just so happen to be talking about Chinese people who are cruel to animals, not all Chinese people.

No, that doesn't work. In the absence of an explanation we have to go with what he said. He didn't say "not all Chinese people" and he used "subspecies" intentionally didn't he? Or is he helpless and doesn't understand the meanings of words? He has been getting the attention of the media since the beginning of his career and I don't think it was accidentally.
"Subspecies" used in the context of a particular nationality or ethnicity has some specific overtones. He's had plenty of time to say exactly what he meant. Even when the idiotic nephew rehashed just about every controversial thing that Morrissey ever said in that recent interview, even he didn't bring up that again.
 
No he didn't say eating dogs was worse than cows. But he implied it, by singling out the Chinese as a subspecies.
Yes i would agree an anim right activist would hate both. So why single out the Chinese?
Lots of people think it's ok to eat some animals but not others. I don't understand why.

But my point was that M wasn't making a big statement on race then. He was being hyperbolic. It's getting dredged up because of the FB shit. Remember when STDIB came out? Everyone was loving him, he was on the radio, he had Morrissey day in LA or whatever it was...people were willing to forget past controversies. He f***ed his career resurgence up himself with all this FB shit. They are intolerant, islamophobic extremists. Now every little thing is dredged up and used in evidence against him.

‘singling out’ ? :lbf:doh:

Because it was in reference to the subject brought up between the interviewer and him, the subject being
those Chinese in China that are performing cruelty to animals. Can’t people read?



Edit :lbf: Trill it only hurts you because it’s true. :tiphat:
 
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No, that doesn't work. In the absence of an explanation we have to go with what he said. He didn't say "not all Chinese people" and he used "subspecies" intentionally didn't he? Or is he helpless and doesn't understand the meanings of words? He has been getting the attention of the media since the beginning of his career and I don't think it was accidentally.
"Subspecies" used in the context of a particular nationality or ethnicity has some specific overtones. He's had plenty of time to say exactly what he meant. Even when the idiotic nephew rehashed just about every controversial thing that Morrissey ever said in that recent interview, even he didn't bring up that again.

WTF? WTF is there to discuss they are sub species. FFS only subspecies would eat little fluffy puppies and kitty cats.:barf:
What is there to discuss?:censored:

have they given up their evil commie ways? have they quit eating little pets?:rage:
no thus, Moz is once again correct: sub species for the China Cucks.:smileycat:

they eat PARAKEETS FFS what a low down sub species.:rage:
 
I am a fan and I don’t really care about his political beliefs. Also, I truly don’t think Morrissey is bothered by the colour of a persons skin, he seems to care about the loss of national identity and a lot of people say the same thing. It is true that you can walk through many towns and cities and you don’t hear British accents, he cares about that and many people do too. Morrissey just puts his foot in his mouth every time he speaks on this topic but he thinks it is his place to speak up.
You talk about it as if the Apocalypse just happened in Britain. The Scottish don't complain and in Northern Ireland we don't either, never mind Whales where you hear more welsh than english. Bigotry is never good, that's how World Word II started in its roots. It you feel you are loosing identity don't blame immigrants from around the world (many British are immigrants too in other countries). You are not loosing identity, it's simply transforming. We're in 2019, you can't expect to be living like in the 70s. If you don't want foreigners coming here, remember to tell Britons living abroad to go back to Grey Britain.
 
That headline is utter nonsense, For Britain are not against immigration at all.

They just call out the very worst aspects of Islam, you know, all the stuff that Labour and the Tories dare not mention.

They have no issue with other minorities or indeed law abiding Muslims.
If that's true they should be against Brexit!
 
One can't help but feel that Morrissey fans are a fruitcake subspecies.

o_O

Right. Because you Moz haters wake up at 3 am to to calisthenics.:lbf:
wake up at 3 am to eat hot dogs from the munchies you got from smoking weed all day and night.:lbf:
 
Nic Harcourt, mentioned in the article, referenced having Morrissey on as part of the "Guest DJ" project for KCRW. It's from 2008, you can hear it here.

that was great - thanks for posting it. He must be truly obsessed with 60s & 70s pop, he remembers so many details, both of the bands & when he heard them. It's nice to hear him talk about things he loves for a change.
 
The last time I checked wanting to preserve the heritage ,history,and customs of one’s Country was not racist.It also seems to me the people on here harping and whining about racism and the like are people who liked him as long as his political views meshed with theirs.Now that they differ,they are upset.I call these people poseurs.I find it refreshing going to see him now.True fans.No artificial ones.You are a bore.So ironic that the lyrics to Margaret on a Guillotine now apply to you.
 
No he didn't say eating dogs was worse than cows. But he implied it, by singling out the Chinese as a subspecies.
Yes i would agree an anim right activist would hate both. So why single out the Chinese?
Lots of people think it's ok to eat some animals but not others. I don't understand why.
He singled out the Chinese because he'd seen a documentary on animal abuse in China the day before the interview. It was fresh in his mind. We don't know if the documentary was about eating dogs or not, but China does have a record of low animal welfare in general.

"But my point was that M wasn't making a big statement on race then. He was being hyperbolic."
Agreed.
 
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When he says Mexicans have nice teeth, some will think it's a compliment and some will think he inspects them like an intending purchaser at some kind of auction...

It's like Jesse Tobias, always defending is anti-migrant boss, not realizing that, with the way he himself looks, if he was not an #internationallyadoredguitarist, he'd be shot at any border. (Or just frowned at by purse-clutching elderly ladies in Altrincham.)

Is it stupidity? Lack of self-awareness? After all, Steven could be busy trying to eat rocks in Cashel nowadays if his parents had not decided to emigrate. But guess what, he's made it his life mission to bitch about migrants. Wow. Let that sink in (the Mediterranean) for a sec. Can't the people who defend him 24/7 see how that is a tiny wee bit f***ed-up? (And then of course they can go back to listening to Padraig the self-loathing Chinese Choker if they like.)

Human beings rarely see themselves as they are.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Thelma Houston announced she was a white supremacist.

I don't know James Baldwin well enough to know whether he enjoys being part of Morrissey's minstrel show...You know, I have a feeling he doesn't. But he is conveniently dead.

Looked at by mindless music consumers.
That's all you've got now, all you've wanted, and all you've ever deserved anyway.

Baldwin's dead, so i doubt he's really bothered.
 
One can't help but feel that Morrissey fans are a fruitcake subspecies.
Por empezar que hacen tipos como usted en un sitio dedicado al SEÑOR MORRISSEY??? El es un grande de verdad y se merece lo mejor dejenlo vivir tranquilo ,es buena persona y a mi me basta con su talento ycon lo que hace por la Causa ..me reefiero a la proteccion de los animales , dejen de tratar mal A MOZZ y a sus fans ,tanto odio hoy es equivalente a mucho amor antes ....estan obsesionados con Morrissey... sino porque gastan tanta energia haciendo desafortunados comentarios .viva MOzz Morrissey = te admiro malll
 
Do you wish you could edit this?

:rolleyes:

:neutral:

how can we possibly survive without the Moz haters. we would become a :handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft: dystopia without the anti Moz trolls. ( what an infantile cuck, DramaJ and his 'dystopia'. 58 yrs old and the twat is dystopic LOL what a self spectacle).
when not hating on Moz the trolls including Skinny and his pseuds are working out the complex nature of the blue non fungi fungus while marking time on the dole line.:straightface:
 

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