Morrissey Manchester Show (July 7) - Morrissey Central

Morrissey Manchester Show - Morrissey Central
May 19, 2018

Morrissey will play Manchester in July. Tickets will be on sale within the next week, plus full venue information and invited guests. BMG Records will issue a third single from the album Low In High School for July release.


I think that should read 4th single?
Source: SER via Twitter.
Regards,
FWD.



Update: 20:14


Morrissey will play Manchester on July 7th. Tickets will be on sale within the next week, plus full venue information and invited guests. BMG Records will issue a fourth single from the album Low In High School for July release.

(The Red Denotes the edit of the date and correction of the single)

Update: May 20th
second date added - July 8th at the same venue.
 
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Quando quando quando

Well-Known Member
:nomouth:
I never seen you tangle with anyone, you usually play nice with "pep" and "tat":straightface:
I can give you a few ideas of things you can post where they will be on you like
bees on honey. LOL for sure.

This thing about Drama J. I dont see why Moz should have all the fun.:rock:

Yes, I usually play nice with tat and pep for there isn’t any reason at all why I
shouldn’t cause they are very nice and kind persons, at least to me.

If you are angry at THEM for some minor critisism of Moz, :rolleyes: I think you could find other anonymous imbeciles, which are no fans at all.

You are funny though, I have to admiit.:(
 

Quando quando quando

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Quando, if you were banned, it would be because you’re too good for us. We don’t deserve you!

Yes you do cause I am here. :straightface:

Despite many complaints of users that were banned as if they are totally innocent victims, banned for trivial and completely ridiculous reasons it actually is not that easy to get banned.

You really have to disclose individual and private information about another member or user and spread it around.

Now I almost feel responsible for tipping of the usual idiots, but it is all described in the TOS.

Yes, to be a member on the banned list, either if it is here or on that other one, must be a great honour. :cool:

I envy you all. :squiffy:
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 453

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Yes, I usually play nice with tat and pep for there isn’t any reason at all why I
shouldn’t cause they are very nice and kind persons, at least to me.

If you are angry at THEM for some minor critisism of Moz, :rolleyes: I think you could find other anonymous imbeciles, which are no fans at all.

You are funny though, I have to admiit.:(

Drama J is at it again, directing veiled swipes at Moz during his latest button factory performance. "Bug" is about the 'rise of the right wing or so ive read' WTF


song is undecipherable!!:straightface: Could be about Baklava for all we know...
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 453

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Yes you do cause I am here. :straightface:

Despite many complaints of users that were banned as if they are totally innocent victims, banned for trivial and completely ridiculous reasons it actually is not that easy to get banned.

You really have to disclose individual and private information about another member or user and spread it around.

Now I almost feel responsible for tipping of the usual idiots, but it is all described in the TOS.

Yes, to be a member on the banned list, either if it is here or on that other one, must be a great honour. :cool:

I envy you all. :squiffy:

Youd be surprised as tho who spreads the private info. TOS is like the Bible, has many different interpretations.
"tat" and "pep", correct me if im wrong, are in league with the "evil one" himself.
 
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Anonymous

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So just to clarify, as I’m reading the comments and a lot of people are saying that his show won’t possibly sell out and everyone hates him, is this true? Because I want tickets and I’m scared I won’t be able to bag any
 

Poppymaixoxo

New Member
Morrissey Manchester Show - Morrissey Central
May 19, 2018

Morrissey will play Manchester in July. Tickets will be on sale within the next week, plus full venue information and invited guests. BMG Records will issue a third single from the album Low In High School for July release.


I think that should read 4th single?
Source: SER via Twitter.
Regards,
FWD.



Update: 20:14


Morrissey will play Manchester on July 7th. Tickets will be on sale within the next week, plus full venue information and invited guests. BMG Records will issue a fourth single from the album Low In High School for July release.

(The Red Denotes the edit of the date and correction of the single)
Will this sell out really quickly?
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 852

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So just to clarify, as I’m reading the comments and a lot of people are saying that his show won’t possibly sell out and everyone hates him, is this true? Because I want tickets and I’m scared I won’t be able to bag any

No not true. It will likely sell out so best to grab some the minute they go on sale.
Its just idle chatter by the middle-aged snowflakes on here. They are out and about
ever since the button factory tour commenced. :bee::bee: Like buzzing bees.
Ignore them, be very particular as to
the posts you read.:frowning:
For example 'tat' is ok to read but be wary of 'pep' posts.
 

ExpectingToFly

Active Member
So the only comment from Morrissey you actually quoted was "Hitler was left-wing". You disagree with his labeling.
You can call it stupid, but you'll have to ignore the fascists' and Nazis' socialist origins and the fact that in the 1920's and 30's prominent socialists throughout the world looked favorably at fascism because they saw all the similarities. And they all despised free market capitalism, limited government, and individualism. Furthermore, Hitler borrowed some of his racist views from leftist eugenics.

Friedrich Hayek on the socialist roots of Nazism:
http://en.liberpedia.org/The_Socialist_Roots_of_Naziism
Hitler declared "national socialism was based on Marx":
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html
Thomas Sowell on "Who is Fascist?":
https://www.nationalreview.com/2008/02/who-fascist-thomas-sowell/
Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism:
https://www.mises.ca/leftists-become-incandescent-when-reminded-of-the-socialist-roots-of-nazism/
Eugenics: The Skeleton that Rattles Loudest in the Left's Closet:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/17/eugenics-skeleton-rattles-loudest-closet-left

You can disagree with all that these people and others say, but it's not just some wild, baseless opinion from stupid people.

Firstly, I was answering from my own memory of the interview rather than going through it again, hence why I only gave the one 'quote'. I presume you aren't denying that my other points aren't somehow valid criticisms, though some are obviously based on my own interpretations.

Morrissey, in his statement, wasn't exactly making a nuanced point about free market capitalism when he made his remarks, was he? He makes a specific link with racism and Hitler being 'left wing'. Yet it was Hitler's ultra-nationalistic, anti-egalitarian, and extreme views on race that more than anything set him apart from mainstream leftist ideology. While the left was largely concerned with class and a reorganisation of the economy, Hitler's primary focus was race. He routinely attacked Marxism. He was against trade unions, worker strikes, and pretty relaxed about enterprise and private ownership provided it fitted with his ideas for an Aryan empire. While setting up a welfare system, it discriminated on the basis of race and was part of a system that euthanized the 'weak', such as the disabled. Socialism was a very useful word to the Nazis, there is no doubt. But if such a belief in socialism ever existed, it was a very different version to what most people would consider to be its basic values. One needs only look at what happened to people on the left under his rule. While the Communist Party was outlawed, the Social Democrats were the only party to oppose Hitler's Enabling Act of 1933 (more moderate conservatives voted for it). The Nazis ruthlessly - and violently - targeted the Social Democrats before they assumed overall control, and afterwards its members were imprisoned, murdered, or forced to flee. Leftists were among the concentration camp victims. The 'left wing' faction of the Nazi party, which undeniably existed, was effectively purged during the Night of the Long Knives.

Ultimately, I think the driving force behind Hitler and Nazism was simply its vehement racism and belief in a master race, and it appeared to trump any economic ideology. I accept that people can debate the contradictions and similarities within and between extreme left and right wing regimes (both have certainly been responsible for inflicting tyranny and committing appalling crimes) but I maintain that Morrissey's statement, particularly in the context he used it, is one of the most stupid opinions I've ever heard.
 

E Scott

Well-Known Member
Firstly, I was answering from my own memory of the interview rather than going through it again, hence why I only gave the one 'quote'. I presume you aren't denying that my other points aren't somehow valid criticisms, though some are obviously based on my own interpretations.

Morrissey, in his statement, wasn't exactly making a nuanced point about free market capitalism when he made his remarks, was he? He makes a specific link with racism and Hitler being 'left wing'. Yet it was Hitler's ultra-nationalistic, anti-egalitarian, and extreme views on race that more than anything set him apart from mainstream leftist ideology. While the left was largely concerned with class and a reorganisation of the economy, Hitler's primary focus was race. He routinely attacked Marxism. He was against trade unions, worker strikes, and pretty relaxed about enterprise and private ownership provided it fitted with his ideas for an Aryan empire. While setting up a welfare system, it discriminated on the basis of race and was part of a system that euthanized the 'weak', such as the disabled. Socialism was a very useful word to the Nazis, there is no doubt. But if such a belief in socialism ever existed, it was a very different version to what most people would consider to be its basic values. One needs only look at what happened to people on the left under his rule. While the Communist Party was outlawed, the Social Democrats were the only party to oppose Hitler's Enabling Act of 1933 (more moderate conservatives voted for it). The Nazis ruthlessly - and violently - targeted the Social Democrats before they assumed overall control, and afterwards its members were imprisoned, murdered, or forced to flee. Leftists were among the concentration camp victims. The 'left wing' faction of the Nazi party, which undeniably existed, was effectively purged during the Night of the Long Knives.

Ultimately, I think the driving force behind Hitler and Nazism was simply its vehement racism and belief in a master race, and it appeared to trump any economic ideology. I accept that people can debate the contradictions and similarities within and between extreme left and right wing regimes (both have certainly been responsible for inflicting tyranny and committing appalling crimes) but I maintain that Morrissey's statement, particularly in the context he used it, is one of the most stupid opinions I've ever heard.
Please don't forget about slave labour which Deutsch bank, Siemens and Mercedes Benz profited from amongst others. (15 million slaves at anyone time during Nazism - not exactly trade union friendly)
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 852

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Firstly, I was answering from my own memory of the interview rather than going through it again, hence why I only gave the one 'quote'. I presume you aren't denying that my other points aren't somehow valid criticisms, though some are obviously based on my own interpretations.

Morrissey, in his statement, wasn't exactly making a nuanced point about free market capitalism when he made his remarks, was he? He makes a specific link with racism and Hitler being 'left wing'. Yet it was Hitler's ultra-nationalistic, anti-egalitarian, and extreme views on race that more than anything set him apart from mainstream leftist ideology. While the left was largely concerned with class and a reorganisation of the economy, Hitler's primary focus was race. He routinely attacked Marxism. He was against trade unions, worker strikes, and pretty relaxed about enterprise and private ownership provided it fitted with his ideas for an Aryan empire. While setting up a welfare system, it discriminated on the basis of race and was part of a system that euthanized the 'weak', such as the disabled. Socialism was a very useful word to the Nazis, there is no doubt. But if such a belief in socialism ever existed, it was a very different version to what most people would consider to be its basic values. One needs only look at what happened to people on the left under his rule. While the Communist Party was outlawed, the Social Democrats were the only party to oppose Hitler's Enabling Act of 1933 (more moderate conservatives voted for it). The Nazis ruthlessly - and violently - targeted the Social Democrats before they assumed overall control, and afterwards its members were imprisoned, murdered, or forced to flee. Leftists were among the concentration camp victims. The 'left wing' faction of the Nazi party, which undeniably existed, was effectively purged during the Night of the Long Knives.

Ultimately, I think the driving force behind Hitler and Nazism was simply its vehement racism and belief in a master race, and it appeared to trump any economic ideology. I accept that people can debate the contradictions and similarities within and between extreme left and right wing regimes (both have certainly been responsible for inflicting tyranny and committing appalling crimes) but I maintain that Morrissey's statement, particularly in the context he used it, is one of the most stupid opinions I've ever heard.

"Most people" being the left wing loons, I take it.:sleeping:
The USSR was very pro trade union.doh: Lenin got rid of the Socialist Revolutionary Part... whats the big deal, left wing socialist loons have always been whacking each other for all types of stupid reasons.:tiphat:
 
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vegan.cro spirit# 852

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Please don't forget about slave labour which Deutsch bank, Siemens and Mercedes Benz profited from amongst others. (15 million slaves at anyone time during Nazism - not exactly trade union friendly)

Because slave labor was unknown in the USSR.
Gulag paid very high wages.:crazy:
 

E Scott

Well-Known Member
He will be insufferable if these gigs sell out or not - playing either the egotistical Victor or the martyr/victim. Don't think i could stand the banter between tracks. He'll be accusing Diane Abbot of touching his genitals or holding him.up at knife point.
 

AztecCamera

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I reckon I hope Uncle Steve is ok financially. Playing Mankchester and then some other foreigner Nazi places. I reckon is the last resort, especially Mank because he hates it there so much and I don't believe he was born there. I reckon I hope Steve doesn't lose his house in Malibu like Rusty Brand did. He is still a huge Hollywood star in LA and everyone still kisses his ring, but he doesn't sell out like before.
 
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Anonymous

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No not true. It will likely sell out so best to grab some the minute they go on sale.
Its just idle chatter by the middle-aged snowflakes on here. They are out and about
ever since the button factory tour commenced. :bee::bee: Like buzzing bees.
Ignore them, be very particular as to
the posts you read.:frowning:
For example 'tat' is ok to read but be wary of 'pep' posts.
Ahhhhh. Excellent! The proper “what to do” from K-hole’s tube-dwelling, emoji-loving felchermate.

My go-to specimen for folks who seek an exemplification of wilful ignorance, piss and vinegar combined. A LOVELY dressing among the sticks and seeds crowd. ...but also lovely on the double-lamb shawarma I’ll be selling at the stage door, at all of Morrissey’s upcoming shows.

Moz lives on piss and vinegar but also a generous crumble of Kerrygold cheddar. His topper - always close by - carries a wheel in a dark-grey suitcase. He says it helps him hit the higher notes in any of the vocal bits he warbles, that aren’t in a major 3rd.

I told him on the last tour, as he dashed out back with the merch coffers, that the piss/vinegar/cheese lifestyle would catch up with him.

He just shrugged, took back half a double shawarma in a single bite - wiped his mouth with the sleeve of his cashmere sweater - and said, “No phones, no pools, no pets.”.
 

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