Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast food chains

Once again he shoots himself in the foot.

Morrissey: 'Norway Attacks Nothing Compared To Actions Of Fast Good Giants' - Gigwise
He claims...

Morrissey has courted criticism after he reportedly compared the actions of fast food companies to the recent attacks in Norway.

At least 76 people died last week in two separate attacks which were both orchestrated by far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik.

Morrissey, a staunch vegetarian, made reference the massacre during a performance in at Stodola Club in Warsaw, Poland earlier this week, according to the Daily Mirror.

Before playing The Smiths' song 'Meat is Murder', he is quoted as saying: “We all live in a murderous world, as the events in Norway have shown, with 97 dead.

“Though that is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald’s and Kentucky Fried Sh*t every day.”

Video footage of Morrissey performing the song has been published on YouTube, but it omits his alleged introduction.

Morrissey's comment is the latest in a string of outbursts in recent months, many of which have focussed on animal welfare.


Link from Tingle3:

Morrissey says Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast food chains - Daily Mirror
by Ashleigh Rainbird

MORRISSEY has sparked outrage after saying the tragedy in Norway was “nothing” compared to the actions of fast food chains.

The controversial singer, 52, made his remark while on stage at a gig in Warsaw on Sunday night.

Before launching into his hit Meat is Murder, the outspoken vegetarian made reference to the horrific events last Friday.

Referring to the death toll as thought at the time he said: “We all live in a murderous world, as the events in Norway have shown, with 97 dead. Though that is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald’s and Kentucky Fried S*** every day.”

Two nights earlier the singer introduced the same song with another lambasting of the brands.

Gig-goers took to his fan sites to condemn the his outburst. One wrote: “The killing of children compared to KFC & McDonald’s?!!! What an ass****!”

Another wrote: “I really don’t know if that is *forgivable? Or of any use to the vegetarian cause?”

A spokesman said last night: “Morrissey has decided not to comment any further as he believes his statement speaks for itself.”

Update 10/18/2011:

Sistasheila posted the link to the video and actual words spoken during the concert:



"Despite the love, we do live on a murderous planet,
as you will have seen over the last few days in Norway.
Murder murder murder.
But really, every single day, worse things happen in KFC and McDonalds.
Murder, murder, murder, murder, murder..."



Link from inourbritches:
Morrissey: 'McDonald's, KFC worse than Norway massacre' - Digital Spy

Also, links posted by anonymous persons in the Warsaw post-show:
Meat biz worse than Norway: Morrissey - LFPress / Wenn.com
Morrissey lekceważąco o norweskiej tragedii - Interia.pl
Morrissey: – Massakren i Norge er ingenting mot massakren på Mc Donald's hver dag - tv2.no

80s Icon in Hot Water, a Facebook Status Leads To an Arrest, and a Whale Thanks its Rescuers in a Touching Way - Yahoo! News blog. Link from Desert Bee.
 
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Re: Article: Morrissey: 'Norway Attacks Nothing Compared To Actions Of Fast Good Gian

Perfectly, exactly wrong. The concept of "speciesism" is central to the animal rights movement, as you'd know if you read perhaps the most famous work on the matter, Peter Singer's Animal Liberation.

Those of you who roll your eyes at Morrissey on these matters have it exactly backwards. He's over your proudly middlebrow heads.

No... some of us such as myself get it. We understand what Singer says and why Morrissey says the things he does. We disagree with it. Morrissey is not above my head. I disagree with him and think he is an ass. I do not need to be anonymous to share my views of how ignorant and stupid he sounds today.

I said it in the forum and I will say it here. I wonder what his statement would have been had his family been killed in the London Train Bombings? Would he say it was horrible but the real tragedy is the consumption of meat.

The guy is a jackass.
 
Re: Article: Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast

It has nothing to do with whether its a positive or negative opinion - it's due to the fact that this site is inserting some random person's opinion into what is supposedly a factual news piece. Opinions belong on a forum, or here - not as opening statements on a 'news' items. What headlines can we look forward to next - 'Morrissey, the talentless clown, is interviewed in this weeks NME'?

I'm choosing to include the comment by the original poster. I understand you do not feel that is the place for commentary, but historically that's how the articles have been presented by those who posted them as most originate from the forums. You are welcome to disagree or post your opinions in the comments as you just have.
 
Probably not without help from his personal asistant. Noone with a little bit of empathy and intelligence would have made such a comment when a whole country is in grief, neither would he have played that song. This is very sad.
 
So, the choice is between callously insulting the victims and their families or miraculously raising the victims from the dead, is it?
Call it a hunch, but I kinda suspect any grieving relatives would probably be doing their grieving at home, in Norway - and not enjoying themselves at a Morrissey concert in Poland. Until the newspapers picked this item up - and I think you can pretty much guarantee that the source was So Low - none of them would have even heard about it.
 
too soon? but thats not an agument, time has nothing to do with it.
either he says what he thinks, or not. he does, and I would be disappointed if he didnt.

just because some people think, that the human is more worthy than any animal,
than thats your opinion. im with morrissey here.

I dont want to be killed, but that also goes for the average cow.
 
This is one of those 'Love Morrissey, hate his views' moments. I understand what he's trying to say - which is that animals are suffering dreadfully and people look in the other direction on a massive scale, while spleens are vented when something like this happens to people - but the timing and the manner of expressing it is simply an attempt to draw more controversy and get his name in the papers (yet again). It's tragic if he intentionally does this. Why make such a crass statement, which is likely to upset and offend millions simply to get a point across about animal cruelty? I don't understand. This kind of hypocrisy - rubbing the humans' noses in it to defend animals only antogonises those who don't care for animals, reinforcing (their usually misguided) belief that animal rights campaigners care more about animals than about human beings. If he took a more measured tone, it would be less offensive and more powerful.

On a side note, if Morrissey is actually saying animals and humans ARE equal - and that the cruelty of KFC is therefore worse because more animals are killed - then why does he wear cow skin on his feet and why does he sit on cow skin seats in his expensive sports cars? Would he wear human skin? No. So surely Morrissey himself acknowledges this distinction, even if only because he chooses to utilize the dead animal industry when he sees fit.

Instead of the usual sycophantic nonsense or vague, unthinking questions Morrissey is asked by hacks, wouldn't it be good to see him confronted intelligently about some of these contradictions in an interview? Unforunately he would probably storm out if someone did.

My top questions:

1 if you are horrified at eating flesh, why wear did skin on your person?
2 if you want to frisk fans for meat when entering venues, why do you hang out with Nancy Sinatra and chat while she cooks dead nimals in the kitchen?
3 why did you eject david t from a gig simply for running a website for 15 years in your honour? Is it really his fault some stories prove to be a little inaccurate?
4 if you're so against rumours being posted on morrissey-solo then why do you rely on rumours and gossip when it suits? For eg. he allowed an unnamed 'tour spokeswoman' to comment on david's ejection, which was then reported widely. You can't have it both ways. If you don't want gossip and rumour to form the substance of 'news' about you, then you have to speak up for yourself.
5 what exactly about tony blair did you hate? You left britain after he was elected and returned when the tories got in. You said john redwood 'excited' you in the 90s. Are you a right wing tory?
6 you said 'black people and white people will never get along' 'that tunnel will collapse.' You alluded to the Chinese as 'a subspecies' and then you claim not to be a racist - and further you supported love mnusic, hate racism. How do you square your purported anti-racist views and occasional xenophobic protestations? I'm not attacking him here, or even saying his position is indefensible. He may not be racist, and indeed be against racism, but also feel he's perfectly right to comment on the behaviour of certain ethnic cultural or racial groups. But I would like to hear him explain it is all.
7 Why have you spoken so extensively about your private life over the years and then become angry that people pry? Wasn't it YOU who made your sexuality and lifestyle and intellectual attitude an issue rather than the press?
8 What do the lyrics to ambitious outsiders actually mean?
9 do you think the 80s morrissey would have been a fan of the 2011 morrissey?


Instead of interesting answer to these questions, we get the usual stuff - tell us about your latest songs, tell us again why you hate animal cruelty, oh and by the way do you think the Smiths might ever reform?
 
I was horrified when I read this artists comments on the murder of so many of my people in Norway.

RIP Mr Adolf Morrissey Hitler !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
this comparison is a total disgrace and major lack of respect for all the poor children's and youths, that so tragically perished and all the families affected.
 
Re: Article: Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast

Okay Moz and people who are agreeing with him KFC and Mcdonalds suck. But no it is not the same. Sorry animals are not people. Not saying they are not important they certanly are but no they are not the same thing. Some times Morrissey comes off as some one trying to mix things up to get attention. You are above this Moz and you have done so much for animal lib. You don't come off very well when you say things like this. All the love.
The attention is the quest,
the most he can get for himself in a few sickening words.That's always been his style.Or should one say, lack of.
 
Re: Article: Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast

I used to be a fan of his, but today I threw all my records in the trash. Could not find a more suitable place for them after his statement.

Count me in! Mozz, this time your opinion is just disgusting! Why even compare?????

/Dreadbear
 
I think a big problem is that even though he is totally brilliant in some ways, he's still very adolescent in others. So many teens have big "f*** conformity and lets rebel against the normal way of thinking!" attitudes, and Morrissey has never really progressed from this where as most people get to their 20s, 30s and beyond and look back at things they thought or said as a 16yr old and can be embarrassed because they realise how little they actually knew at the time. He shows it in other ways, like his inability to let a joke go, like his "royal dreading" comments, he just kept saying it over and over in a statement, like he was incapable of saying "royal wedding". It gets a giggle the first time but when you can't say it any other way because you're hammering across your point of view and making sure everyone know that you are controversially against such a thing ... its childish.
So with this sort of comment, it's not surprising, not everything is a chance to shock and a chance to push a particular agenda (in this case, vegetarianism/animal cruelty), sometimes a bit of tact is required and if you must say something, mention the situation at hand. Its sad that animals are butchered every day for KFC and Maccas, but that issue isn't going away any time soon, and there's plenty of time to campaign for it. A massacre like this (thankfully) doesn't come along often, and when it does it bares thinking about it solely. Unfortunately Morrissey can't exercise that judgement as I honestly don't think he's mentally matured enough, it happens with some people.
He's a genius in his line of work, but often geniuses in one way or another can be deeply flawed human beings.
 
Re: Article: Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast

I posted the article and made the comment, which I stand by.

"The original remarks" are NOT "classic Morrissey". There's no wit in what he said and using the Norway killings is the worst form of opportunism. At a time when he has no record company he really is doing himself no favours. He needs all the fans he can get right now and his latest foot-in-mouth outburst is hardly going to convert anyone to his music or his politics.

"Once again he shoots himself in the foot."

This is a problem with your format for articles at the moment--who is saying this? DavidT? miseryguts? Some member of the press?

I can't help but suspect that this site is now so determined to portray itself as a devil's advocate against any position Morrissey takes that you don't care who's being understood to have said it--it accuses Morrissey of being a dunce, and that's all that matters.

Of course, the original remarks are classic Morrissey. He's always been a dangerous and subversive person when he's been at his best, and all the outrage against him on this site lately just shows that the site's patrons are a lot of middle-of-the-road, fat, American conservatives who became fans at a late age as some pathetic form of 80's nostalgia. Please just change the name to DavidT-Solo so you won't seem so irrelevant to the artist and the ideas that some of us still follow attentively.
 
Re: Article: Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast

6 you said 'black people and white people will never get along' 'that tunnel will collapse.' You alluded to the Chinese as 'a subspecies' and then you claim not to be a racist - and further you supported love mnusic, hate racism. How do you square your purported anti-racist views and occasional xenophobic protestations? I'm not attacking him here, or even saying his position is indefensible. He may not be racist, and indeed be against racism, but also feel he's perfectly right to comment on the behaviour of certain ethnic cultural or racial groups. But I would like to hear him explain it is all.


I don't understand how the first quote is racism. Being racism would be saying that they "shouldn't" get along. As for the second quote, he was talking about their animal rights, not the fact that they have a different colour of skin.
 
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Do you think if maybe Morrissey had decided to replace 'Scandanavia' in the set-list with a cover of 'We Are The World' all thos dead people in Norway would have suddenly sprung back to life and rainbows would burst into view overhead ?

What planet do you come from?

Not the same as you obviously!

/Dreadbear
 
Re: Article: Morrissey: Norway massacre is "nothing" compared to the actions of fast

Too many 'anonumouses' around here. I'm logging in to avoid confusion.

Call it a hunch, but I kinda suspect any grieving relatives would probably be doing their grieving at home, in Norway - and not enjoying themselves at a Morrissey concert in Poland. Until the newspapers picked this item up - and I think you can pretty much guarantee that the source was So Low - none of them would have even heard about it.


Fine.

But what were the odds that the newspapers would NOT pick up such a statement made by an international celebrity mere days after the massacre?

And what does that have to do with the tasteless nature of the statement itself?
And what does that have to do with the frankly bizarre logic I was addressing when I wrote my comment?

Interesting philosophical question:
If Morrissey equates the mass murder of teens to eating a chicken McNugget and nobody hears it, is he still a prick?
 
I'm frankly amazed that anyone on this site is suprised by Mozzer's comment.

Whoop-de-doo - the guy who has been proclaiming 'Meat is Murder' for the past 26 years causes a storm amongst his fans by (drum roll, wait for it) comparing 'meat' with 'murder'.

Was I the only person who actually bought that album and listened to it?

Morrissey has always considered the meat industry to be murder on a massive scale. How is this a suprise? Has everyone here been living under a rock for the past 26 years?
 
If Morrissey is not vegan (I don't know if is or is not) then his statement's against animal cruelty are very hypocritical as dairy industry is as bad as the meat industry.
 
SHAME ON YOU, MORRISSEY!!! At least have the desensy to wait till after the funerals! This did not happen, so that you can use it to any type of "political" or similar campaining!!! SHAME!!!
 

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