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Nerak

Reverse Ferret
Lol, I have been staring at this for a full five minutes, while doing nothing except asking myself if you posted me something that you really wanted me to click on.

i haven’t clicked on it.

was i supposed to click on it?

I only put it there in case you'd never heard of Days of our Lives. It's a daytime American soap opera - the video is their opening credits.
 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
I feel like you’re being wiley and asking me to respond to you for the benefit of other, less intelligent people on this thread, who aren’t even capable of posting a cogent series of discussion points or ideas - because you know I don’t have patience or interest in people like that.

I also know that you know that I know, what an oligarchy is. So we’re going in circles already, before we’ve even begun.

“Anyone can post on twitter for no cost, and twitter can remove anyone for any reason or for no reason”. This isn’t the issue, is it? It’s the not issue anyone is arguing, and it’s not the issue at stake.

When you have the sitting President of the United States of America using a platform like Twitter as their official and direct mouthpiece, and preferred method of communication, and then that platform is removed from a sitting President for political reasons, and any and ALL of the other (few) similar platforms that also exist similarly follow suit and ban him and shut him down - because they “don’t like what he said”... ???? This is not China, last time I checked. And we do not silence sitting Presidents, just because the other party “doesn’t like what they said”. This has been outrageous, and a shame on the face of the United States that will go down in history, for NONE of the reasons Dems think

This is censorship happening of a magnitude as yet unseen, and people are celebrating?? This is why I don’t have the patience or interest in engaging here, with the types of people that need this POINTED OUT to them. And I don’t mean you, to be clear.

Apple, Amazon, and Google are three of the biggest companies in the world, who have now colluded, to censor with their aggregate power, ANYTHING they don’t like.

Where does it stop?
Is it fine to censor and silence the President who is actively sitting in office?
What about everyone that supported him politically because they agree with his policies? Get rid of them too? Ok.
So now, even as I type this, the nation’s collective goal, media would have us believe at least, is that we’re actively trying to erase any kind of conservative voice from the media, from public office, from policy making, from everywhere we can - why? How is the beneficial for a society? Or how is that a measured action? Or how is that aligned with the tenets of our constitution? A two party system was already bad enough. This is now beyond the pale.

Further to which - no one should be typing nonsense here about “private companies can do whatever they want”. No. NO, they absolutely cannot do whatever they want. There’s a little something called Antitrust laws, and they are all deeply, deeply in violation at this stage. The legal fallout from what happened 2010-now will be tremendous.. and will go on for years.

And last but not least... to the people going on like broken toys, about sedition, insurrection, and incitement of violence - please.

Does that mean that we’re also going to bring charges against Biden (said he wanted to beat Trump up, if it was up to him)? This is apparently acceptable for him to say on an official engagement, publicly, and at a press conference?

And we’re also presumably going to slap that braindead, wholly illiterate specimen Maxine Waters, with charges of insurrection and incitement of violence too, yes? For using her public platform to rile a huge crowd and by publicly publicly promising them to “go right up there and take Trump out herself”. All to a baying mob.

Mafia Reptile CryptCreeper Pelosi on the riots this summer, and destruction of property and statues? Statues are historical artifacts, and Art. She shrugged, when asked about the ongoing riots. She smiled and SHRUGGED.

No FBI lists were issued, no warrants for people’s arrests, in fact, Kamala Harris’s official statement was that “they should NEVER stop” rioting. Tbey should never ever stop rioting. So? Please explain to me. If conservatives were to take power again? It would be fine to shut down any sitting president they don’t like?

Internet shutdown is censorship.

And exactly no one is talking about a baker and a gay cake. f***ing please. Grow up before posting something so idiotic and so completely broken off from any semblance of reality.

Internet shutdown, around elections especially, is one of the most grave acts that can be committed - and certainly so in what we call “the free world”

It doesn’t matter if it’s the left or the right doing it. It’s wrong, and it can only lead to an abyss.

Liberals have turned into tyrants, and the question is - who actually gives a flying f*** - who you’re f***ing? or what your gender preference is or one of 10,000 other meaningless other points...

IF it’s all underpinned by “liberals” who don’t believe in the Bill of Rights, anymore??

If you support a system that takes away your most basic right - that of free speech

Then you’re not a liberal, and you support a system of tyranny.
Twitter and FB, explicitly Dorsey and Zuck got fabulously wealthy from capitalism while enjoying the protections of section 230. The solution seems to me fairly simple, let them keep censoring as they want but take away their Section 230 protections and lets see how long they last.

I've never been on Parler, apparently the tech is terrible and never much fancied giving my phone number to join, however when a viable competitor comes along they find a way to get rid of it. Parler should've gone the same route as GAB and built their own servers, but realy they shouldn't need to.

'If you capitalist conservatives don't like the rules then why not just go and build your own platform' was the common cry of Lefties defending twitters censorship, and even when they do that they still find a way to silence them.

Censorship and algorithms controlled by Big Tech absolutely have an effect on elections. I've followed Robert Epstein for some time, a former friend of Clinton, I believe he even voted Biden in the last election ahs been warning for years that Big Tech literally now controls election outcomes. here is one long (but very good0 video but there are dozens of articles out there on him. Most of course will be smear jobs, LOL.


Right now many on the Left are celebrating because it's a victory over Orange Man Bad, but they don't understand, Big Tech doesn't care much about either side IMHO. They will just start with Conservatives and work their way on from there. They would do the same thing to Bernie in a heartbeat.
 

A scanty bit of thing

I only have eyes for youuuuuu, Aztec!
Twitter is not his official mouthpiece and he was kind of dumb to treat it that way. When I see his tweets it's not like "the President of the United States is giving an official message," but more like that idiot reality show dude who managed to get elected because more people hated Hillary is up at 3am again posting nonsense.
Again, just because I think this is important to remember, the only reason Twitter has any power is because so many people use it and incidents like this are part of the process. Maybe the US should give everyone free internet and establish a platform that we can all use unless we're using it to break the law.
The other thing, as much as that attack on the Capitol looks like theater, he did call a mob to action when everyone who was in the line of succession after him was in the same place at once, and he had been busy putting his people in charge of the military previous to this.
I think it's most likely that he actually was set up and made to believe that a coup could actually work, but that doesn't affect the fact that he seems to have attempted one.


It's true that these companies have too much power. Who began the process of giving it to them? Ronald Reagan. We used to have locally owned radio and television stations and newspapers. Now we really don't. But again that comes down to people giving up their power.

It's all part of a process and people have to stop supporting Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook and all the others. Of course they're going to use their power to benefit themselves and their friends.

The Bush administration used 9/11 to take away our rights, start an illegal war. hold people illegally, and we all went along with it. Obama came to power and continued this trend. Trump came to power and things still kept going the same way. Now that it's him being removed from a platform for treason it's supposed to be a problem?
They didn't remove all of the conservatives. Some of the people I follow for reasons other than politics are still supporting Trump and saying the election was fake. But they are removing people whose posts they believe to be dangerous, which they have the right to do. Maybe these people shouldn't have built their online presence there.

As far as what different Democrats or liberals posted during the riots, yes there might be some irony there, and it might make them consider what they post in the future now that some of them have been exposed to the threat of violence themselves.
The people whose businesses were burned down might want to get some kind of class action suit against some of those that encouraged rioting.
It's still different than the President of the US using a privately controlled platform to inflame a mob and doing nothing to stop them, watching them on television while some of his own people were seemingly in grave danger, and only coming out against them after they've been escorted out, their plans having failed. He's a dangerous fascist and he shouldn't have a platform to spew his lies. He should actually be tried and given the most severe punishment possible. Anything less invites the next tyrant to try it again.

If you want to remove these Democratic lawmakers from Twitter, I'm sure you could find reasons, but their offences do not serve to make Trump's offences acceptable.
Your entire post said “Big tech is dangerous, government has gotten dangerous, civil liberties have a value, freedom has an ENORMOUS value, and Trump should have his platform taken away and I don’t like him. And he’s a fascist”.

I take offense at the word fascist being used in this context, and I certainly disagree. Moreover, people have been using it as the adjective du jour for the last four years without even knowing what a fascist is

If, on the other hand, you want to discuss policies, fine. Let’s do it.
 

A scanty bit of thing

I only have eyes for youuuuuu, Aztec!
Twitter and FB, explicitly Dorsey and Zuck got fabulously wealthy from capitalism while enjoying the protections of section 230. The solution seems to me fairly simple, let them keep censoring as they want but take away their Section 230 protections and lets see how long they last.

I've never been on Parler, apparently the tech is terrible and never much fancied giving my phone number to join, however when a viable competitor comes along they find a way to get rid of it. Parler should've gone the same route as GAB and built their own servers, but realy they shouldn't need to.

'If you capitalist conservatives don't like the rules then why not just go and build your own platform' was the common cry of Lefties defending twitters censorship, and even when they do that they still find a way to silence them.

Censorship and algorithms controlled by Big Tech absolutely have an effect on elections. I've followed Robert Epstein for some time, a former friend of Clinton, I believe he even voted Biden in the last election ahs been warning for years that Big Tech literally now controls election outcomes. here is one long (but very good0 video but there are dozens of articles out there on him. Most of course will be smear jobs, LOL.


Right now many on the Left are celebrating because it's a victory over Orange Man Bad, but they don't understand, Big Tech doesn't care much about either side IMHO. They will just start with Conservatives and work their way on from there. They would do the same thing to Bernie in a heartbeat.
I will watch this later, I’m at work. I just think it’s comical and for the pea-brained to follow like lemmings, whenever anyone starts with “the Russians, the Russians” again. China tanked not only our economy but the US industry as as whole - decades ago - and STILL no one’s worried about the one political party here that wants to destroy what little is left. You want to talk about criminals? Anyone who wants to do undo the trade agreements that have been put in place with China should be sent into permanent exile

Of course elections are controlled by powerful vested interests domestically, and of course globalists are not on the side of Trump. Globalists and capitalists are not synonymous, and honestly people are so naive and so very ill informed about what is actually going on geopolitically on a global front, that it boggles the mind

“Let’s make one rule for one party, and one rule for everybody else”. This is Democrats. Very democratic, isn’t it?
 
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Breton La Villain

Well-Known Member
Again Trump love him or loaf him he has turned the whole political world upside down and shaken it up.
You could say he is modern day Punk or Rock and roll star.But America is now more divided now between Race,Religion & Class and Idetity,& Sleep old Joe Biden and Nurse Karmala Harris won’t solved.That will be Trump’s legacy when he leaves The White House.
 

Hovis Lesley

Well-Known Member
i dont think you quite grasp the situation. if you can control what a great deal of people read, you can control what they think. big tech has no business being involved in politics. it's dangerous, and trump would've clamped down on it had he been reelected which is probably the reason they played this game of silencing him: to show their power.
Yes, when these businesses start deciding what content is or isn’t allowed, they ought to become recognised as publishers and media companies.

Presently, they’re having it all ways and so risk becoming state propaganda tools.
 

Breton La Villain

Well-Known Member
The whole thing with the Democrats is that horrible do as we say and do as we do.That Soviet Union kind of mind set,they do nothing for people That whole cancel woke culture thing.it does nothing for no one just shut People down for having a different view.The whole Democrats sucking up to antifa & the hipsters I don’t think they represent there view and they don’t understands their one.If you see what the Democrats and Antifa have done to LA is awful.Hello New York wan’t more of Portland & Seattle I don’t think so force to dye your hair pink and purple alright.Want’s more of that woke culture in the big apple and more Antifa & more Jeff from American dad and hayle moving to your city.

I Don’t Think So.
 
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The article of impeachment, incitement of insurrection, is now being read on the House floor before the debate begins.

The article reads, in part, “In his conduct while President of the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, provide, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed — Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States ...

“Donald John Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. Donald John Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.”

Enjoy :ROFLMAO:
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA

What do artists know about politics
anyway?

We need politicians to tell us what is wrong and what is right. It’s only politicians that know about human wants and needs.


:rolleyes:


Yeah, we’ll have a new president soon, as if that will really change anything. Just a continuing
us against them mentality running this world.
 

The.Truth.

about Ruth
Your entire post said “Big tech is dangerous, government has gotten dangerous, civil liberties have a value, freedom has an ENORMOUS value, and Trump should have his platform taken away and I don’t like him. And he’s a fascist”.

I take offense at the word fascist being used in this context, and I certainly disagree. Moreover, people have been using it as the adjective du jour for the last four years without even knowing what a fascist is

If, on the other hand, you want to discuss policies, fine. Let’s do it.
I just wanted to know what "twitter is part of the oligarchy" means when this started. That's why I posted the definition. What is the oligarchy? Who are you referring to and are you saying that twitter is part of the government?
 

The.Truth.

about Ruth
What do artists know about politics
anyway?

We need politicians to tell us what is wrong and what is right. It’s only politicians that know about human wants and needs.


:rolleyes:


Yeah, we’ll have a new president soon, as if that will really change anything. Just a continuing
us against them mentality running this world.

Things will change but if you're saying that we can't rely on politicians to fix things for us that's very true.
 
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