TTY: Morrissey, tonight in Sao Paulo

UPDATE 2:35 AM PT:

An anonymous person posted a link to the source of the image, @stracy1675 / Twitter.



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Morrissey, tonight in Sao Paulo - true-to-you.net
20 November 2015

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It spectacularly hurts Morrissey, or rather his chances of ever getting a record contract. Even if he did not create the picture himself, or (legally) not even expressly endorsing it. Because that does not matter. The impression it leaves does.

Well, I think Katy Perry could make 20 similar post a day and would be safe. Why? Because she makes the record company money. THESE are the things that count. Welcome in the business.
 
He does not give one iota about anyone in the paris killing
Financial gain and exposure is all he wants. Get your head out of your ass. Morrissey cares and have always cared only about himself since the day he was born really.

Moz AND the band. Has no one yet wondered if anyone from the band might know present or past members of the Eagles of Death Metal, for example? If there are some connections? Or if anyone in the band has friends or acquaintance in Paris. I know that Boz and Jesse have friends in Paris so at least they will be shocked about what happened.
 
Morrissey makes enemies at such staggering speed that I sometimes wonder if it's all a huge con, and he doesn't really want a record deal in the first place. Why else would he systematically slur and alienate label bosses over and over again - the very people that he wants to take him on?
Morrissey is in self-destruct mode again - it's like the f*** Harvest shirts, he just can't stop himself.

If he wanted to be talking about the terrorist attacks, he'd be talking about the terrorist attacks. But he doesn't, the topic has now been switched to priority #1, talking about himself and how HE is denied being included in whatever it was he wanted his song to be included in. Re-released? All roads lead to feeling sorry for Morrissey, it's so much more interesting than anything else going on in the world.

Something is doing this to his brain or someone. Someone is giving him the wrong peptalk and it's destroying his image of being in control and if it continues will demolish his legacy.

This fan has the voice of reason in the bragfest:

 
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I think Morrissey said once, he wouldn't stop going on about wanting a record until his mom let him buy iT. He is still doing this! I swear he does things like this to get a laugh. He is by far the funniest person.
 
Do you honestly, honestly believe that Morrissey wanted I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris re-released for financial gain? Honestly? Or maybe, just maybe, the man who has become numb to all the human atrocities that go on day in, day out all over the world, might ACTUALLY have been genuinely touched by the Paris killings? We all know that Morrissey has a love affair with France, and the song I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris OBVIOUSLY means an awful lot to Moz because he has kept it in his set for a very long time - much to the condemnation of most of the users on here. Jean Cocteau, Jean Marais, Jean Genet, Brigitte Bardot, Alain Delon, Françoise Hardy, Serge Gainsbourg, Sacha Distel, Maxims, La Fabrique.... these are just a few of the MANY, MANY things that Morrissey loves about France, and what was the last concert Morrissey attended? It was Charles Aznavour at the Palais des Sports in Paris in September. f*** you and your nasty, negative views. I for one am NOT a Moz cultist, I am a Moz fan. You, Skinny, Geezer, Tseng, Brummie Boy, Benny et al have ALL forgotten why you came here in the first place, your love of Morrissey. Why do you come here? Is your life SO dull that the only thing that gives you life is hating the man you once loved? It's mirror time, my friend.

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The day after the Paris attacks he called for circuses to be bombed back to the stone age. There is a four hour time difference between Santiago, Chile and Paris, France. The first of the attacks, before anyone would have known what was happening or it would have been on the news, was about 9:20pm Paris time. At 12:30 on the 14th they were storming the Bataclan. By then it was worldwide news. Somewhere between 5:30 and 8:30pm om the 13th, Morrissey's local time, he had to have known. Maybe he had already sent his statement, however that works, but it wasn't published until the next day. It wasn't posted on Solo until 10pm, and Solo is on the same time zone as Paris, 6 hours ahead of TTY's timezone. So it was posted on TTY sometime in the afternoon EST, twelve hours after the attacks, conservatively. Say it was posted at 12pm. Morrissey was in a timezone 3 hours ahead of that making it at least 15 hours after the attacks.
He had all day to stop the post, which called for bombings. I do think that he did not intentionally refer to Paris with his post. It was already written. But he had at least after the attacks to put that post on hold, and since it referred to an incident months before it would have still had the same relevance. Any rational person, I think, would have thought about this.
I realize all that about the timezones sounds batty, but I wanted to know if it was intentional, and I don't think it was. Still nothing here suggests he cared about the people of Paris. Not his previous comments on mass killing, or his neglecting to postpone his circus quote, which, on a slow news day might have gotten some traction. Not the post the next day about the British Royals. Not the post complaining about being denied a re-release. Not the post grabbed from twitter. How does that show respect to anyone? People died and his problem is that his song didn't get re-released?

That's why it's not hard to honestly, honestly believe that he saw this as something he could capitalize on. I never came here to blindly worship anyone. I think he's gotten away with a lot over the years because of people thinking that he couldn't really mean what he appeared to be saying, and this time, because his behavior is so obviously self-centered, it's easier to believe that he wanted publicity than not.

But I do understand how bad it seems to be accusing him of that based on circumstantial evidence. It's just the immediate feeling I had, and the more I look at it the more convinced I am.
 
Where? Where did that happen? I was commenting on the downward spiral of the quality of TTY posts. Clearly this passed you by.

Crotchety old GrandpaSkinny has a problem with something, what a surprise... Go and shout at the kids to turn their teenybopper tunes down you fogey
 
Why is this website becoming The UncleSkinny & Friends Show?
Set up another forum or website where he can ply his condescending, "at least one big word per post" trade, and where his fans/enemies can do verbal battle with him and his negative, poisonous ways.

I want news and discussion about Morrissey and The Smiths, not little bitches taking shots at each other.
 
If he wanted to be talking about the terrorist attacks, he'd be talking about the terrorist attacks. But he doesn't, the topic has now been switched to priority #1, talking about himself and how HE is denied being included in whatever it was he wanted his song to be included in. Re-released? All roads lead to feeling sorry for Morrissey, it's so much more interesting than anything else going on in the world.

Something is doing this to his brain or someone. Someone is giving him the wrong peptalk and it's destroying his image of being in control and if it continues will demolish his legacy.

This fan has the voice of reason in the bragfest:



His career and legacy are 4cked forever now Crystalgeezer. I wouldn't be surprised if he is suffering mental illness but what does surprise me is Martin, Damon and others in the circle just humouring him (bad people on the rise) as the illness spreads.

Martin now finds himself at the crossroads in 'the book' working title KERCHING BOORER MY LIFE ON THE ROAD WITH TOSSERREY.
Chapter 78: To man up ? or Just sit back and count my wages ? (Excerpt)

"The boss has gone mental again after Paris has been ignored by the record execs in the wake of the Paris atrocities, Stevens response is to get pissed day and night watching utube and posting Julia ranting outbursts. That bastard butcher Benny on the solo website is giving me hell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ."

4ck Martin and Damon the freeloaders ! Let's start a campaign to get our man sectioned and try and save what's left of his career.

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The day after the Paris attacks he called for circuses to be bombed back to the stone age. There is a four hour time difference between Santiago, Chile and Paris, France. The first of the attacks, before anyone would have known what was happening or it would have been on the news, was about 9:20pm Paris time. At 12:30 on the 14th they were storming the Bataclan. By then it was worldwide news. Somewhere between 5:30 and 8:30pm om the 13th, Morrissey's local time, he had to have known. Maybe he had already sent his statement, however that works, but it wasn't published until the next day. It wasn't posted on Solo until 10pm, and Solo is on the same time zone as Paris, 6 hours ahead of TTY's timezone. So it was posted on TTY sometime in the afternoon EST, twelve hours after the attacks, conservatively. Say it was posted at 12pm. Morrissey was in a timezone 3 hours ahead of that making it at least 15 hours after the attacks.
He had all day to stop the post, which called for bombings. I do think that he did not intentionally refer to Paris with his post. It was already written. But he had at least after the attacks to put that post on hold, and since it referred to an incident months before it would have still had the same relevance. Any rational person, I think, would have thought about this.
I realize all that about the timezones sounds batty, but I wanted to know if it was intentional, and I don't think it was. Still nothing here suggests he cared about the people of Paris. Not his previous comments on mass killing, or his neglecting to postpone his circus quote, which, on a slow news day might have gotten some traction. Not the post the next day about the British Royals. Not the post complaining about being denied a re-release. Not the post grabbed from twitter. How does that show respect to anyone? People died and his problem is that his song didn't get re-released?

That's why it's not hard to honestly, honestly believe that he saw this as something he could capitalize on. I never came here to blindly worship anyone. I think he's gotten away with a lot over the years because of people thinking that he couldn't really mean what he appeared to be saying, and this time, because his behavior is so obviously self-centered, it's easier to believe that he wanted publicity than not.

But I do understand how bad it seems to be accusing him of that based on circumstantial evidence. It's just the immediate feeling I had, and the more I look at it the more convinced I am.

YEP ! What a TW@T !

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Why is this website becoming The UncleSkinny & Friends Show?
Set up another forum or website where he can ply his condescending, "at least one big word per post" trade, and where his fans/enemies can do verbal battle with him and his negative, poisonous ways.

I want news and discussion about Morrissey and The Smiths, not little bitches taking shots at each other.

Could you please stay on topic and stop trying to divert attention from the original crass outburst from Silly Steven not getting his own way having his oldie ditty " I'm Milking My Song About Paris " re released !

Thanks.

Benny-the-British-Butcher ( I smell blood ! I hope it's Stevens )
 
Morrissey is the ultimate Troll. It's comforting to realise that David Joseph appears to have seen through the plan/trap which Morrissey was trying to set. As follows:

1] Morrissey feigns support and 'loving respect' for the deaths in Paris whilst ignoring his historic form on dismissing similar deaths in Oslo.

2] Gullible Universal accept his 'change of heart' as sincere and include him on the tribute album for the Paris Attacks and re-release ITMAAP.

3] French media protest at his inclusion due to his outrageously offensive and disrespectful comments about the slaughter in Oslo.

4] Morrissey refuses to apologise for his comments on Oslo and bingo! The Troll gets what he really wants, which is that the world will (for a few seconds) once again pay attention to his tiresome trolling.

David Joseph appears to have sussed all this or someone has alerted him to the discussion on this site. It would be deeply insensitive to let this Troll Morrissey fake crocodile careerist tears for any such project.

f*** Morrissey

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Why is this website becoming The UncleSkinny & Friends Show?
Set up another forum or website where he can ply his condescending, "at least one big word per post" trade, and where his fans/enemies can do verbal battle with him and his negative, poisonous ways.

I want news and discussion about Morrissey and The Smiths, not little bitches taking shots at each other.

Here you go. OR set your own site up?

http://allyouneedismorrissey.com/site/


Don't bang your head on the door on the way out.

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Do you honestly, honestly believe that Morrissey wanted I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris re-released for financial gain? Honestly? Or maybe, just maybe, the man who has become numb to all the human atrocities that go on day in, day out all over the world, might ACTUALLY have been genuinely touched by the Paris killings? We all know that Morrissey has a love affair with France, and the song I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris OBVIOUSLY means an awful lot to Moz because he has kept it in his set for a very long time - much to the condemnation of most of the users on here. Jean Cocteau, Jean Marais, Jean Genet, Brigitte Bardot, Alain Delon, Françoise Hardy, Serge Gainsbourg, Sacha Distel, Maxims, La Fabrique.... these are just a few of the MANY, MANY things that Morrissey loves about France, and what was the last concert Morrissey attended? It was Charles Aznavour at the Palais des Sports in Paris in September. f*** you and your nasty, negative views. I for one am NOT a Moz cultist, I am a Moz fan. You, Skinny, Geezer, Tseng, Brummie Boy, Benny et al have ALL forgotten why you came here in the first place, your love of Morrissey. Why do you come here? Is your life SO dull that the only thing that gives you life is hating the man you once loved? It's mirror time, my friend.

R

Morrissey was 'touched' by the Paris slaughter but trolled the similar Oslo slaughter.
He has repeatedly magpie-cherry picked French Outsider Culture to try and appear Radical. Now that he's published 'List of the Lulz' we need waste no further time imagining his appropriation of that culture as anything other than a peurile vanity project. He probably imagines people will still be going to see him at Aznavour's age if he doesn't succumb to THE CANCER, THE BLOOD PRESSURE or THE BALDNESS.

I have absolutely never 'loved' Morrissey. He is fascinating for an equal mixture of Talent and Trolldom. I come here because I'm sitting with my family watching Strictly Come Dancing and I find it amusing to multitask between genuine telly entertainment and the banalities of Morrissey's supposedly 'Outsider' art. Lots of things make me feel alive but mocking the clownish antics of the Morrissey Troll is low on the list, but it fills in idle time. I trust this clarifies my position for you. And f*** you too! And f*** Morrissey!

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I'm sorry, but how can this site ever be a place of comradery or kindness when one of the lead moderators is either spouting his anti-Morrissey position as an accompanying note to an article or at the head of the comments? When the general tone is so disrespectful to the artist that led David to create this site in the first place? Posts such as "f*** you Morrissey"...again and again go unmoderated...are they respectful?

Let's look at this story and the response to it...firstly the way the request Morrissey made to Universal has been interpreted. The fact is, the chorus of the song is a sentiment that people would get behind. Secondly, the idea of a tribute in these circumstances is that the proceeds would go to those affected...I don't care what you think of Morrissey, but I think the repeated suggestion on this site that he is looking to profit from the death of innocent people is vile and demonstrates the agenda being pushed by so many posters on this site. Thirdly, lets not forget that Universal are considering using this as an opportunity for for their roster when they surely have enough music, if not ITMAAP, to come up with a fitting tribute.

I've posted on this site for nearly 20 years. I used to feel a degree of loyalty to it, there were always trolls but there was a lot more respect for Morrissey and an interest in events, but not the pick, pick, picking to pieces and twisting of everything he ever says or does to fit in with the "Morrissey The Heel" characterisation. What is the point in this site, and what happiness can anyone achieve here? Not much that I can see. How many shows have these people been to this year or ever? Were they actually at Birmingham NIA or Hull to experience a fantastic night?

In the year 2000, this site was at least a flag bearer in a labelless period. Now it's a big part of the problem, choc-a-block with detractors, and anyone who isn't is marked as a "cultist". In a time where I cannot hear new recorded material from the only artist that matters to me, whilst the BBC give an hour of free advertising to thick-as-pigshit Adele...Harvest completely f*** up the promotion for WPINOYB and then wipe their hands of Moz and no-one here makes that observation...you'll forgive me for being somewhat defensive in response to bash bash bash of Morrissey propagated by this site!

SSOB

f*** you SSOB.

Surely you can see the irony about complaining about me telling Morrissey to f*** off on a thread about him telling David James to f*** off? LOL!

There is no 'point' to this site other than to act as a forum to explore the work and public persona of Morrissey. I achieve great happiness here by mocking this absurd Troll known as Morrissey but I'm not stopping you from posting your fan-mail, am I?

As for this site being a 'problem'? To who? Morrissey, clearly, as he made his hirelings wear t-shirts in Bradford with 'f*** Morrissey-Solo.com' on them because folk like me ridiculed his rubbish demos (KAL, PATSE, etc) He has repeatedly harassed the site proprietor for allowing Free Speech. Seriously: f*** you SSOB. And f*** Morrissey!

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@Uncleskinny - don't waste your time on these fair weathered "fans" that joined the fray in the past 10 years or less. They obviously don't have a clue, let alone show proper respect. This site, and really Morrissey in general are nearly 180 degrees different from the good 'ol days. I'm saddened more and more by the lack of comradery and kindness that used to pulse thru Morrissey-Solo. It's almost as if these newer fans are the spawns of the worst parts of what Morrissey has become. Morrissey was right, money changes everything,.

I didn't get into his music because of his views/politics, I genuinely like his music, despite what Morrissey says from time to time. Funny how you say that Morrissey is 180° different from the good 'ol days.....yet you praise WPINOYB?
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Amazing, you complain about the influence a particular part of his fanbase is affecting his music. but didn't you praise the album? see, you definitely are amongst friends, like UncleSkinny with his inebriated rants at almost every thread related to the main page.


You can have all the comradery that you want with UncleSkinny and CrystalGeezer, you know them quite well as the overlords of the Morrissey-Solo Threads and Posts. That's going to be that small corner of the room, where you can be defiant to the general public of Morrissey fans.

Oh, by the way, I've been a fan for 25 years and counting, but since I've joined the "fray" within that timeline you posted, it must mean I'm fair weathered, right?
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Brutal. Bowie releases an amazing new song and M. releases this image. My love for M. has been fading slowly over the past 10 years or so. I loved Quarry deeply - the tunes and lyrics were evocative and moving, he looked good, and he hadn't said anything embarrassing for a while. I think he had a solid 20 years of producing great art, which is a lot more than the vast majority of pop artists. For me (and many, maybe most, others?) he was always a Gesamtkunstwerk artist: the music, lyrics, record-sleeves, hairstyle, clothing and interviews all worked seamlessly to represent a complete picture of a "beautiful outsider." The problem, I think, is that his artistic vision was too closely tied to his personal life. As he's become less beautiful (age, fame, California!), his artistic output has degraded accordingly (music, lyrics, record-sleeves . . . etc.). Compare with Bowie, also a Gesamtkunst artist, but one who's art is more informed by an exploration of, and curiosity into, different aesthetic ideals rather than his personal life - he still produces relevant music (at the age of 103!). I respect M. for his stance on animal welfare; I think it's the one remaining aspect of his fame that is worthwhile. But his current art and his inane political views, coupled with his toxic narcissism, are leaving many of his old fans cold. I wonder if this will tarnish his old work (at least for me)? I rarely listen to him or the Smiths anymore. (FWIW I think U.S. Girls is an exciting current example of the "beautiful outsider".)
 
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Steve Barnett (CMG), Max Hole (UMG), Sam Smith (of course), David Joseph (Universal U.K.), Nick Raphael (Capitol U.K.)
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So he feels blacklisted. I can empathize with that, but I also can't help but nod in agreement with the Alain post above this one. ^^^

I wish he could squirrel away to that animal rescue farm recently procured by his Peta friend and muck stalls and get in touch with daily chores and nature to clear his head, get some perspective to get out of the unacknlowledged real royalty funk he's in. Just connect with nature and honest labor instead of self pity. It would be good for him.
 

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