TTY: New Zealand Leads The World - animals now being recognised as sentient beings

Article link added to TTY regarding animals now being recognised as sentient beings in New Zealand. About time. Now we wait while the rest of the world tries to wake up to this truth.

​New Zealand Leads The New World​ - true-to-you.net

http://www.animalequality.net/node/703

 

[Anonymous]

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Excellent news!!

 

[Uncleskinny]

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This is literally old news. Good news, but last year's news. Wonder how it will affect New Zealand 's 1st and 3rd largest exports - dairy products and meat? Very little, I'd say.

 

[Kenmare]

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Maybe it's emerging as news on TTY because NZ authorities pressed charges based on a violation of the Animal Welfare act. The violations took place last year, but the charges are what's new I think?

http://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/new-zealand-brings-charges-over-abuse-of-bobby-calves.htm

 

[countthree]

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This is literally old news. Good news, but last year's news. Wonder how it will affect New Zealand 's 1st and 3rd largest exports - dairy products and meat? Very little, I'd say.

Animal Rights are shamefully unprotected by international law, international organizations and its member states. Despite the fact that already exists a Universal Declaration of Animal Rights, proclaimed in Paris on 15 October 1978 at the UNESCO headquarters:

English http://www.appahulda.org/sites/default/files/article/310/file-id-607.pdf

Spanish http://academic.uprm.edu/rodriguezh/HTMLobj-139/DERECHOS_ANIMAL_UNESCO.pdf

Suspiciously, the text of that Declaration of Animal Rights CAN NOT BE FOUND in the UNESCO website, unlike the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

http://en.unesco.org/

There's an entry at Wikipedia about a project of Universal Declaration on Animal Welfare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_on_Animal_Welfare), where the declaration of 1978 is cited as "historical background". This project was conceived in 2000 by a group of animal welfare organizations and after several drafts, till the last one in 2014, nothing could be achieved, except affirming the repeal of fact of the declaration of 1978. This is a dirty trick from the corporations that exploit animal suffering.

It's impossible that non-governmental organizations can achieve the necessary pressure against the corporative lobbys, since they don't have an independent funding. That's what makes necessary the actual participation of the governments of the member states for the purpose of attaining international standards for regulation of animal rights and thus achieve the effective commitment of those member states.

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

"There are seventy million sheep in New Zealand, four million of whom think they are human." - Barry Humphries.

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

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Animal Rights are shamefully unprotected by international law, international organizations and its member states. Despite the fact that already exists a Universal Declaration of Animal Rights, proclaimed in Paris on 15 October 1978 at the UNESCO headquarters:

English http://www.appahulda.org/sites/default/files/article/310/file-id-607.pdf

Spanish http://academic.uprm.edu/rodriguezh/HTMLobj-139/DERECHOS_ANIMAL_UNESCO.pdf

Suspiciously, the text of that Declaration of Animal Rights CAN NOT BE FOUND in the UNESCO website, unlike the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

http://en.unesco.org/

There's an entry at Wikipedia about a project of Universal Declaration on Animal Welfare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_on_Animal_Welfare), where the declaration of 1978 is cited as "historical background". This project was conceived in 2000 by a group of animal welfare organizations and after several drafts, till the last one in 2014, nothing could be achieved, except affirming the repeal of fact of the declaration of 1978. This is a dirty trick from the corporations that exploit animal suffering.

It's impossible that non-governmental organizations can achieve the necessary pressure against the corporative lobbys, since they don't have an independent funding. That's what makes necessary the actual participation of the governments of the member states for the purpose of attaining international standards for regulation of animal rights and thus achieve the effective commitment of those member states.

It isn't possible to police any animal rights legislation worldwide. We can't police internationally recognised human rights at the moment. Any animal rights declaration is only a toothless, if very worthy, hope to outline a direction of travel. It can only be done state by state, and that must be a good couple of hundred years away at the present rate.

It'll happen, but, as I've said before, only when technology develops to make the consumption of animal protein uneconomic. A moral stand won't achieve the ultimate goal. As usual, it'll be about money. When it is cheaper to meet the dietary needs of vast swathes of the third world by other means rather than the harvesting of animals that is when it will change.

Too often we look at this issue from a Western perspective, where we can make a choice as to what we consume. That is not the case for most of the developing world. When they can get up at ten on a Saturday morning and decide to nip down the supermarket for gluten free vegan croissants perhaps they will. Until then it's as you were.

 

[countthree]

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It isn't possible to police any animal rights legislation worldwide. We can't police internationally recognised human rights at the moment. Any animal rights declaration is only a toothless, if very worthy, hope to outline a direction of travel. It can only be done state by state, and that must be a good couple of hundred years away at the present rate.

It'll happen, but, as I've said before, only when technology develops to make the consumption of animal protein uneconomic. A moral stand won't achieve the ultimate goal. As usual, it'll be about money. When it is cheaper to meet the dietary needs of vast swathes of the third world by other means rather than the harvesting of animals that is when it will change.

Too often we look at this issue from a Western perspective, where we can make a choice as to what we consume. That is not the case for most of the developing world. When they can get up at ten on a Saturday morning and decide to nip down the supermarket for gluten free vegan croissants perhaps they will. Until then it's as you were.

Police power is exercised by national authorities. Local legislation must be adapted to international law by member states, and they must apply that law. The purpose of an universal declaration of rights is to set a minimum standard of rights for the member states. Precisely considering economical reasons it's necessary that said set of basic rights can be adopted by the greatest possible number of countries. If a member state increases the cost of its production chain due to measures taken to protect animal rights, those industries will fly to countries that don't do that and animal suffering will continue, but in another place. That doesn't have any sense, because animals don't know about borderlines. Human beings shouldn't know about them either when basic human rights are affected, but that's another story (very serious, unfortunately).

If we take into account only the degree of compliance with a law, and considering that human rights are massacrated on a daily basis in many regions of the world, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights never should have existed. Nevertheless, it's the main legal standard of the planet. It reflects our aspirations as globalized human society.

 

[Anonymous]

Great news, thanks for sharing Morrissey. Luv you..

 

[countthree]

What are animals thinking and feeling?

 

[countthree]

Terrible killing


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/24/japan-confirms-whales-killed-during-scientific-expedition-to-antarctica


Why, why, why... such cruelty??? Whales are amazing and friendly creatures