"Can Morrissey’s Musical Legacy Survive His Bad Press?" - Dallas Observer (July 16, 2019)

Can Morrissey’s Musical Legacy Survive His Bad Press? - Dallas Observer
By Diamond Rodrigue

I don‘t think so, which makes me quite sad, cause I still love him!

 

[The Truth]

It’s up to the moderators to set the tone for the forum. There are other forums that discuss music that don’t allow politics, religion or hate speech. The site owner is probably busy making money off of the traffic, from advertisers.

That's why you have to
1) register
2) use Adblock
Otherwise you have to watch an ad or fill in a word to post. Every time you post you support the site. Plus you're giving them content. If no one posted here there wouldn't be much reason to visit. Even arguing and winding people up creates a reason for people to come back, It's a "negative" reason but when people get involved in disputes here they will check the site more often.
So I'm not criticizing but just saying that it's your choice to support the site or not.

 

[pandaproducts]

Morrissey will be just fine. The truth tellers have never been darlings of the press. I'm more concerned for the gentle and fragile. The media is a joke. We've heard their punchline over and over again. It's time to get off the stage.

And what great truths has Morrissey told, pray? Hitler was left-wing? Nigel Farage is an excellent fellow? Anne Marie Waters is the only person capable of uniting the UK? Please, tell me.

 

[marred]

And what great truths has Morrissey told, pray? Hitler was left-wing? Nigel Farage is an excellent fellow? Anne Marie Waters is the only person capable of uniting the UK? Please, tell me.

Are these the three things keeping you up at night?

 

[pandaproducts]

Are these the three things keeping you up at night?

No. They don't keep me up at night, but I'm disappointed in Morrissey for stating them. Now, can you kindly answer my question?

 

[Morrissey_Sucks]

And what great truths has Morrissey told, pray? Hitler was left-wing? Nigel Farage is an excellent fellow? Anne Marie Waters is the only person capable of uniting the UK? Please, tell me.

Hitler was left wing? Really? Can you provide facts to back up that statement? I’m interested to see.

 

[gordyboy9]

I miss Sue Ellen! She was the most real person on that show.

still a good looking woman at 78.

 

[pandaproducts]

Hitler was left wing? Really? Can you provide facts to back up that statement? I’m interested to see.

I'm quoting Morrissey's statements.

 

[Anonymous]

• You mistake Northern self deprecation as a dislike of one’s home. Manchester is Morrissey’s Home. I know a friend of his that he visits frequently. All those years when we was supposed to be living in exile in LA, he was never away from Manchester. And when I say Manchester, I don’t mean satellite towns, I mean the city centre.

What Morrissey says, and what he does are not always consistent.

You got it . Its funny as f*** these ass clowns trying to say Manchester isnt his home, just read his book . All his soul is in the manchester childhood . The further he gets the more empty he becomes.
Its nice he gets new fans but they really are thick . It seems very few people get moz. They seem to read something and just think it's true. I have seen some argue with actual friends of moz about what moz does . As if this people who have never met him know.

Yes the whole LA thing was just about keeping his money out of Mikes hands, setting the tone for his "comeback" and pretending he loved LA to keep his fans happy . As you say the truth is he spent a few months there a year MAX

 

[Anonymous]

Hitler was left wing? Really? Can you provide facts to back up that statement? I’m interested to see.

75 percent people debating on debate.org think fascism is left wing. There's no "evidence"- it's an opinion. If you want to understand why many people think this, read the below discussions.
https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-fascism-left-wing-yes-or-right-wing-no

 

[Anonymous]

One day, probably too late, you’re gonna realise that all this shit you’re squabbling about, doesn’t even matter. Do you think your opinions in this forum actually make a difference to anyone. All you’re using this site for is to inflate you’re own ego by passing yourself off as smart. If you wanna be racist, be racist, but stfu and do it in the silence of your own home instead of spewing your bile on here.

old proverb: what Peter says about Hans says more about Hans than about Peter. Think about it!

 

[ordinaryboy86]

old proverb: what Peter says about Hans says more about Hans than about Peter. Think about it!

That makes no sense to me, I’m assuming you think I’m projecting my own behaviour onto ReelFountain. And in that case, shouldn’t the quote be, “What Peter says about Hans, says more about Peter than about Hans”?

Or instead of speaking in riddles you could just say what you really mean

 

[Anonymous]

You got it . Its funny as f*** these ass clowns trying to say Manchester isnt his home, just read his book . All his soul is in the manchester childhood . The further he gets the more empty he becomes.
Its nice he gets new fans but they really are thick . It seems very few people get moz. They seem to read something and just think it's true. I have seen some argue with actual friends of moz about what moz does . As if this people who have never met him know.

Yes the whole LA thing was just about keeping his money out of Mikes hands, setting the tone for his "comeback" and pretending he loved LA to keep his fans happy . As you say the truth is he spent a few months there a year MAX

Moz always hated scruffy mancunians with a passion and never liked the way they sound and how they dress and so on. There is no doubt he despises the place and its people.

 

[Anonymous]

I miss Sue Ellen! She was the most real person on that show.

Her and Larry Hagman and his wife May from Eskilstuna had a very close friendship in private. My mother worked with May here in Eskilstuna at the posh town hotel before she met him and only had nice things to say about her.

I've seen him in his cowboy hat on the balcony of that hotel when me and my mom and dad was on a bus heading for the train station with a lot of bags.

Larry filled up the entire balcony with his white cowboy hat alone. He also arrived in a helicopter to hand students at the St. Eskil school laptops when laptops were quite new.

The KENT song "Mannen i den vita hatten 16 år senare" (the man in the white hat 16 years later) might not be about students after all but about Larry who came to visit his school.

 

[Anonymous]

I loved Sue Ellen, but I think that's down to Linda Gray herself. I used to think her voice was dubbed because she was so busy pouting, her lips seemed to be out of synch with the words coming out of her mouth.

I'd murder for a new season of Dallas. The modern version was surprisingly great and the wee boy with his here I am all lights on me pose was perfection.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/FxiK3W0lnbw8o/giphy.gif

 

[Anonymous]

Moz always hated scruffy mancunians with a passion and never liked the way they sound and how they dress and so on. There is no doubt he despises the place and its people.

WHAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!????? NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

 

[Anonymous]

I always write her name in the english way, May, but her name was Maj Axelsson and her and Larry met in London.

Here is one of few pictures of them after landing next to the St. Eskil high school in a helicopter in 1982.

They visited Sweden every summer since that year and had a summer house up north in Sundsvall. Even Ingmar Bergman watched Dallas which in turn was inspired by "Scenes from a marriage" according to the people behind Dallas.

Dallas was hated by swedish socialist media and the arty elite until Bergman opened his mouth and said he loved it. That made the "soap" go from hated to popular.

I am not sure but the above picture was the first visit and I believe he came many years later to hand out laptops hired by some computer company. Tragic end as she got ill but despite that he died before her.

The revolution in Romania and the fall of Ceaușescu was entirely down to Dallas which was the only overseas show allowed there and JR became a symbol for the opressed people of the self made man who did everything he could for money.

The american dream.

 

[Anonymous]

Moz always hated scruffy mancunians with a passion and never liked the way they sound and how they dress and so on. There is no doubt he despises the place and its people.

You are going by 90s interviews when he was jealous of Stone Roses and Oasis . Read his autobiography it tells you all you need to know . listen to the music and compare the love that poured out in the smiths and his 90s career to now.
You may want to go back further with your reach . One a radio show he said he liked Happy Mondays lp and said he wished he could have been on TOTP with Stone Roses and Happy Mondays. I think it was when November Spawned a Monster came out .
He said it would have been a good Manchester moment. On top of that those who know can tell you he spends most of his time in Manchester and Ireland not f***ing America and even when in America not always in LA

Do you really think Moz is that sort that would spend too long in LA , get real . Listen the LA thing was press , it was a new image. Mostly he spent time on tour or in Manchester. you can write all the BS you like. Who gives a f*** . You know dick.

 

[Anonymous]

Back in Eskilstuna again with a heroes welcome.

They still hold the record for the longest marriage in Hollywood, 60 years. Larry said in a swedish tv interview that the key to the success was having separate bathrooms. He never went to poor countries with mosquitos and he technically died on the operating table during a procedure and described "millions of levels of love".

 

[Anonymous]

You are going by 90s interviews when he was jealous of Stone Roses and Oasis . Read his autobiography it tells you all you need to know . listen to the music and compare the love that poured out in the smiths and his 90s career to now.
You may want to go back further with your reach . One a radio show he said he liked Happy Mondays lp and said he wished he could have been on TOTP with Stone Roses and Happy Mondays. I think it was when November Spawned a Monster came out .
He said it would have been a good Manchester moment. On top of that those who know can tell you he spends most of his time in Manchester and Ireland not f***ing America and even when in America not always in LA

Do you really think Moz is that sort that would spend too long in LA , get real . Listen the LA thing was press , it was a new image. Mostly he spent time on tour or in Manchester. you can write all the BS you like. Who gives a f*** . You know dick.

But Moz was never into love and romance and is in fact a cold and sinister man who prefer to see the bad rather than the good. He always separated himself from the place he grew up at and the people there. He was an extreme loner and he really did sit in the corner of the pub all alone muttering about killing the queen.

Most locals remember him as someone they were a bit scared of and that was best avoided. It was him against everybody else. I noticed when talking to those people that they almost did not understand the success he has had. Like he was doing something they could not quite understand at all.

I don't find any famous mancunians who ever liked the place and every band and artist was always saying things like "it's just a place we come from". The banter and the humour is unique and I always loved it and that is why someone like Hooky is so misunderstood by so many.

When Ian Curtis had his attacks Hooky reacted like a manc man would and handled it with irony and sarcasm which was seen as cold and stupid by others. Bernard was always like a woman and even sits like one legs close together so no manspreading there.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't know whether Morrissey and the Smiths ever really represented the place they came from. But they made me feel like they did. If they weren't true to Manchester they made Manchester true to them. It was their Manchester.

I can agree with that, well put but not surprised since it came from you.

The poet of Solo.