i think this is a bad troll
you should be ashamed of yourself
you should be ashamed of yourself
Dear 'James Dean'.
I’m not ‘trolling’ anyone. I simply refuse to kow-tow to the boring ‘group-think’ of the narcissistic solipsists who flaunt and cavort around here as if they own the place. I’m having a debate with myself. I couldn’t care less what the ‘hive mind’ thinks.
I’ve just scanned Johnny Marr’s Twitter account and there’s no response from him about the absence of his music from the opening ceremony. He was asked directly but didn’t respond. I’ve no idea what the story is. Maybe Danny Boyle will comment.
The Queen seems to have out-manoeuvred Morrissey with her James Bond ‘helicopter parachute’. It almost as if she’s taking the piss out of the lyrics to ‘The Queen Is Dead’. Never in his wildest dreams/nightmares could Morrissey had imagined the Queen would agree to such a post-modernist prank. I think Morrissey is in a bit of a cul-de-sac with all of this. The Queen’s visit to Ireland was extremely nuanced and complex and Morrissey’s crass republican stance seems stuck in a time-warp before the Good Friday Agreement. With everything else that threatens, fixating on the Royal Family seems dated, tame and lazy. ‘We Hate William and Kate’ was funny for about a week last year: to still be flogging that slogan seems a bit….desperate.
Unlike the Queen, Morrissey is in danger of reducing himself to a series of overused slogans and provocative images. I hope he doesn’t end up as the ‘Jeremy Clarkson’ of ‘radical indie Dad-rock’ as some have openly speculated.
Danny Boyle’s narrative of Britishness was extraordinary. In one 3 hour swoop he covered a vast panoply of cultural data, easily exceeding Morrissey‘s limited fixations. Marr and Morrissey were either ignored, excluded or intentionally removed themselves from the picture. I remain puzzled but it doesn’t seem that many other people are.
regards
I simply refuse to kow-tow to the boring ‘group-think’ of the narcissistic solipsists.
I’m having a debate with myself.
Fair enough. Seemed like a fair question, you don't get much high-minded intellectualism on the internet, let alone forum using secretaries.Dear 'James Dean'.
I’m not ‘trolling’ anyone. I simply refuse to kow-tow to the boring ‘group-think’ of the narcissistic solipsists who flaunt and cavort around here as if they own the place. I’m having a debate with myself. I couldn’t care less what the ‘hive mind’ thinks.
I’ve just scanned Johnny Marr’s Twitter account and there’s no response from him about the absence of his music from the opening ceremony. He was asked directly but didn’t respond. I’ve no idea what the story is. Maybe Danny Boyle will comment.
The Queen seems to have out-manoeuvred Morrissey with her James Bond ‘helicopter parachute’. It almost as if she’s taking the piss out of the lyrics to ‘The Queen Is Dead’. Never in his wildest dreams/nightmares could Morrissey had imagined the Queen would agree to such a post-modernist prank. I think Morrissey is in a bit of a cul-de-sac with all of this. The Queen’s visit to Ireland was extremely nuanced and complex and Morrissey’s crass republican stance seems stuck in a time-warp before the Good Friday Agreement. With everything else that threatens, fixating on the Royal Family seems dated, tame and lazy. ‘We Hate William and Kate’ was funny for about a week last year: to still be flogging that slogan seems a bit….desperate.
Unlike the Queen, Morrissey is in danger of reducing himself to a series of overused slogans and provocative images. I hope he doesn’t end up as the ‘Jeremy Clarkson’ of ‘radical indie Dad-rock’ as some have openly speculated.
Danny Boyle’s narrative of Britishness was extraordinary. In one 3 hour swoop he covered a vast panoply of cultural data, easily exceeding Morrissey‘s limited fixations. Marr and Morrissey were either ignored, excluded or intentionally removed themselves from the picture. I remain puzzled but it doesn’t seem that many other people are.
regards
At first I was like
But then
I am appalled at the absence of direct acknowledgement of the Smiths in the ceremony. That is a personal reaction, but I challenge anybody to be anything less than puzzled.
The reason he is not being given a record contract is that he has God's attention. So if it;s a silly ceremony that last five hours designed around a Smiths tune, imagine what could be set to Meat is Murder? God's recognizing his written word and acting on it, his exclusion from the ceremony is a quiet acknowledgement that God's listening very, very closely.
Silly, stupid c***.
BrummieBoy I adore your posts although I sincerely hope your pomposity is a knowing, humorous pose - or perhaps what I mistake for pomposity is simply colossal, justified self assurance, funnily enough the exact type we could see in early 80s Morrissey interviews. In any case I suspected you were "trolling" (although how many people can pull of trolling with valid opinions?) until I saw the post from Sharon, your secretary, at which point suspicion became belief. Please clarify.
I was saddened by the conspicuous absence of The Smiths. I can only propose that Danny Boyle's entire plan may have been scrutinised, trimmed and censored by some abhorrent committee - perhaps he tried to include the Queen is Dead but was denied? We did hear God Save the Queen on there but it does feel to me that in the aftermath of Lydon's butter ads the Sex Pistols' legacy has been rendered quaint, cartoonish and non-threatening where The Queen is Dead is still vitriolic, sinister and darkly hilarious. If this is the case its exclusion is indefensible; Britain's history has consistently been shaped by protest and counter-culture and this bears acknowledgement. Or, as has been suggested, Morrissey and Marr refused to license the music, for any of the reasons BrummieBoy put forward.
To argue, as some have, that the Smiths are too much of a cult concern to have merited inclusion in the ceremony is absurd; though I agree that they are a "cult" band I would assert that their place in the British cultural landscape is indisputable and that the 30 years following their arrival would have been very different without them. Certainly, to hear two Oasis tracks on the playlist in the Smiths' absence is an affront; I don't believe Oasis would have existed, let alone come to prominence, without the influence of the Smiths and the support and endorsement of Johnny Marr.
One single Morrissey song served as the infrastructure for the entire evening, that is how powerful an influence he is. Cosmically."
Fair enough. Seemed like a fair question, you don't get much high-minded intellectualism on the internet, let alone forum using secretaries.
I checked out Johnny's Twitter too, interesting to see him not responding; he's usually pretty on-the-ball. Perhaps he doesn't know.
The Queen has apparently proved with her good humoured Olympics exploits that she's not a detestable person, but I still believe she represents a dated and flawed institution. Morrissey's republicanism is still valid and I think for him to change tack simply because the relevance of the issue has waned would be a faux pas. As for Morrissey as a counter-culture Clarkson... I don't think there is any true analogy there. His sloganeering may grow increasingly inflammatory and irrational but his art and public persona appear set to remain compellingly fraught with nuance and contradiction for the foreseeable future.
Morrissey's "limited fixations" have some virtue - in contrast to Boyle's sweeping gesture that took in so much as to imply no discrimination in quality, Morrissey only endorses what he believes to be vital and relevant, or vital and unjustly irrelevant (I.E. Sandie Shaw etc.) Now while it does seem right that Danny Boyle didn't appear to let his personal opinions cloud his inclusions in the ceremony (with the obvious possible exception of the Smiths), Morrissey has no such obligations. Danny Boyle selects reference points that apply to England as a whole; Morrissey those that appeal to him.
I am appalled at the absence of direct acknowledgement of the Smiths in the ceremony. That is a personal reaction, but I challenge anybody to be anything less than puzzled.
Yes, one single song. But The Queen is anything but 'dead' and her decision to jump out of that helicopter is the equivalent of her singing "if the day came when i got a natural emotion, i'd get such a shock i'd probably jump in the ocean'. Xmas at the Palace probably involves not just Morecambe & Wise re-runs but 'Karaoke with The Smiths'. She's outfoxed him good and proper, she's revealed herself as having turned Saxon seditionist within the Norman palace lineage, thwarting and trashing her pompous son and heirs: Charles and Moz.. I'm certain she studies his every move. It won't surprise me if Danny Boyle leaks news that the Queen extended a personal invitation to Morrissey and he ran away from her 'up for it' Jubilee provocations. Did Morrissey bottle it?
http://mancunianmatters.co.uk/conte...directs-unique-opening-ceremony-london-2012-o
Morrissey wanted to 'drop his trousers', the Queen has responded by lifting her dress and flaunting her knickers in the skies above London. Seriously genius move....you couldn't make this up....how on earth can Morrissey respond?
http://bit.ly/QYhkCv
I remain a staunch Republican, abeit my views tempered by recognising the absolute horror that could have been: President B.Liar
regards
Somebody had to. He is at least clearly right about a lot of this. And hey apparently BrummieBoy was in W.A.S.P. I wasn't aware that any of W.A.S.P. came from Birmingham.So nice to see you two getting along so well!
..Doesn't the fact that you and your two chums have dismissed her as a schiztophrenic psycho bitch creepo, and have basically disowned her socially..online-wise..yet YOU choose to strike up dialogue with her anyway..strike you as slightly ironic??
Maybe she's not the only one who needs to schedule a visit with a local psychiatrist.
@123xyz
ref: your recent inquiry
xyz123 : 'I'm still wondering how the "group-think" of "solipsists" works ...'
I didn't know so I asked 'BrummieBoy' on your behalf. He suggests you add the following titles to your reading list. I'll try and answer any further queries but it may be a few days as we're off to the Olympics. I'm so excited!!!!
best wishes
Sharon McCormick - Secretary to 'BrummieBoy'
Fromm, E. 1968. The heart of man : its genius for good and evil.
"The very need to achieve something creative makes it necessary to leave the closed circle of group solipsism and to be interested in the object it wants to achieve." (p. 94)
Fromm, E. 1973. The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness.
"Those whose narcissism refers to their group rather than to themselves as individuals are as sensitive as the individual narcissist, and they react with rage to any wound, real or imaginary, inflicted upon their group. If anything, they react more intensely and certainly more consciously. An individual, unless he is mentally very sick, may have at least some doubts about his personal narcissistic image. The member of the group has none, since his narcissism is shared by the majority." (p. 231)
http://workcreatively.org/biblio/keyword/group narcissism