Lyrical references to Non-Morrissey works in the debut Smiths album

[raincoated lover]

I'm doing an essay on The Smiths debut album and I was wondering if anyone could give me any pointers into 'A Taste of Honey' style references in Morrissey's lyrics on the album.

For example, 'I dreamt about you last night and I fell out of bed twice..'

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks as always,

Raincoated Lover

 

[Jukebox Jury]

I'm doing an essay on The Smiths debut album and I was wondering if anyone could give me any pointers into 'A Taste of Honey' style references in Morrissey's lyrics on the album.

For example, 'I dreamt about you last night and I fell out of bed twice..'

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks as always,

Raincoated Lover

This night has opened my eyes has a few:
the dream has gone, but the baby is real,

the opening scene has the two girls chatting, one asks 'you going out tonight?' and she replies, 'I would but I havent got anything to wear' (this charming man)

Jo to the sailor boy 'I'll probably never see you again' (hand in glove)

alma maters.... Ellen is giving Jo some grief and Jo says 'it's my life to do ruin however I want to (or something like that)

I'll think of more and post, kewpie will probably post a link

Jukebox Jury

 

[bored]

there was a great site called LASID... they have info about all the songs and even a list of lyrical sources...

http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/nicked.htm

I wish whoever ran it had kept up.

Another site that has a lot of the data from LASID but is up to date is

http://www.worldofmorrissey.com

 

[Jukebox Jury]

Delaney's "A Taste Of Honey" features the following lines which were adapted by Morrissey mainly for the Smiths' "Reel Around The Fountain" and "This Night Has Opened My Eyes", but also other songs:
"I dreamt about you last night, and I fell out of bed twice";
"You told me not to trust men calling themselves Smith.";
"That river, it's the colour of lead.";
"I'm not sorry and I'm not glad";
"Oh well, the dream's gone, but the baby's real enough";
"It's a long time, six months";
"You can't just wrap it up in a bundle of newspaper. And dump it on a doorstep.";
"I'll probably never see you again";
"I don't owe you a thing";
"As merry as the day is long";
"Sing me to sleep";
"You want taking in hand";
"It's your life, ruin it your own way.".

From www.passionsjustlikemine.com in the literature section, so some of the lines may not have been in the film (I don't recall the line about not trusting men called Smith!)

Surprised the above list doesn't include the This Charming Man quote I described in my above post!

Jukebox Jury

 

[JD93]

"Pretty Girls Make Graves" - title taken from Jack Kerouac's The Dharma Bums

This Charming Man "A jumped-up pantry boy who never knew his place" is from a film with Lawrence Olivier - Sleuth, i think it's called.

"Suffer Little Children" - title from the Bible I think.

 

[Jukebox Jury]

http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/influence.htm

Check out the passions link and you have literature and TV / films quotes at your disposal.
Shelagh Delaney had a few other books with quotes lifted for the first album too.

Good luck

Jukebox Jury

 

[Stephane]

Surprised the above list doesn't include the This Charming Man quote I described in my above post!

That's because the quote is only found in the film, not the book. If you look at the Taste Of Honey entry in the film section, you will find the quote mentioned.

Stephane

 

[Jukebox Jury]

That's because the quote is only found in the film, not the book. If you look at the Taste Of Honey entry in the film section, you will find the quote mentioned.

Stephane

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Jukebox Jury

 

[Sim Tappertit]

I'm doing an essay on The Smiths debut album and I was wondering if anyone could give me any pointers into 'A Taste of Honey' style references in Morrissey's lyrics on the album.

If you look at passionsjustlikemine.com and beg, steal or borrow a Mozipedia and you won't go far wrong.