Should America attack Iraq and take out Mr Insane???

[Robert Evans - the Comeback Kid]

Where is your proof that Arab socialist Saddam Hussein is in any way connected to Islamic fanatics?

> Just how to you propose diplomacy with a crazy person?
> Saddam can thank his friend Bin Laden for the US threatening an attack.
> None of this would have been discussed if it weren't for the terrorist
> attacks of 9-11.GWB should provide evidence of Nuclear weapons in front of
> the UN(not to mention congress, finally) because SA and other middle
> eastern countries respect and listen to the UN.
Where is the proof that Saddam Hussein, Baath Arab socialist, is anyway connected to Islamic fanatic Bin Laden...? Bush didn't give us a proof so far... only semi-ignorant speculations of the "free press", orchestrated by the Bush peoples from above down below... Where is the proof that Hussein was even remotely involved with September 11 attacks...??? None in sight... Sounds like Bush royal dynasty has their own personal accounts to settle with Saddam... I know, Saddam is a horrible man, who fancies himself as a modern day Joseph Stalin, I'm just asking is it really necessary to declare war on Iraq all of a sudden? America will defeat Iraq, but in return USA would provoke a wide ocean of Arab and Muslim world hostility, not to mention thousands of Iraqis killed and billions of our taxpayers monies spent to finance new pro-American puppet regime in Iraq, as if we are not spending enough in Afghanistan...

15 of 18 WTC attackers were Saudi citizens. Bin Laden is Saudi, and he is supported FINANCIALLY by significant part of Saudi oil-monied elite... Why not to attack Saudi Arabia then? At least, it is more logical... Also, if USA decided to invade Iraq to save Kurds from Saddam, why not to declare war on Israel to save Palestinians from daily routine of humiliations and food and travel deprivations by Zionist Occupation of Israeli Army... At least, Bush ought to be consistent in his approach, which is too much to ask from Republicans, of course...

 

[Robert Evans - the Comeback Kid]

Suzanne, thanks for your input... I agree with you 100%!

 

[Robert Evans - the Comeback Kid]

I would approve war on Iraq, if... I would see a credible proof that Iraq was involved at Sept 11...

 

[LoafingOaf]

Suzanna bin Laden again

> why? he's been there for well over 10 years after desert storm and how
> exactly has he suddenly become more dangerous?

Not suddently. We've been attacking him and sweating him all thru those ten years. But America decided ten years ago, after removing him from Kuwait, to go the containment route you pacifists are so fond of, and it failed miserably.

> is it really our right to say who the leader of another country is?

Was it Saddam's right to invade Kuwait? Was it Saddam's right to attempt to assasinate former President Bush? To lob missiles into Israel? To send terrorists into the Kurdish zone to assasinate their democratic leaders? To ignore UN orders to have his weapons inspected? To harbor psychopathic terrorist Abu Nidal?

And will it be his right to get nukes and blackmail the world, thereafter unattackable and able to run amok throughout the region? He already rpvoed he desires to take over the region.

>has it
> even been working that well for Afghanistan?

Yes, in a few weeks time we got rid of the Taliban.

>let's take a look. One tribe
> leader told 60 Minutes "as you can see, those are american soldiers
> guarding him. the people of Afghanistan don't want him."

He spoke for the people of Afghanistan?

>and oh gee,
> they tried to assasinate their puppet leader....again. This is working out
> great.

Who's "they"? Who were the assasins?

THE NY TIMES:
=====
KABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. 6 — With President Hamid Karzai safely back in the Afghan capital and making light of the attempt on his life, government officials said today that preliminary investigations showed that the failed assassination attempt in Kandahar and the car bombing in Kabul on Thursday appeared to have been the work of the Taliban, Al Qaeda or associated groups.
=====

So yes, THEY, the f***ing Taliban freaks and their arab terrorist freak friends, are trying to screw up the interim government, an interim government
which is trying to give Afghans a better country. It's called a war, Suzanne, one side wants to kill the other. Can you follow it? The Taliban and al Quaeda and their lovers want the Taliban back in power. Apparently you do too, or else why do you ALWAYS say everything a Taliban freak would love to hear you say? You always do, Suzanne, you never fail on that.

What a surprise, Suzanne is coming to the defense of fascist Saddam. LOL

 

[suzanne]

Re: Suzanna bin Laden again

You know, the interesting thing about you is not that you completely try to imagine what i'm saying, or that you even live under a rock, but I don't recall you ONCE in all of this time, at least before Bush II brought it up, saying, "OUR LIVES ARE THREATENED AS LONG AS SADDAM HUSSEIN BREATHES!"

And do you know why? Because our lives aren't threatened. You're just some fool who believes whatever he is told without question. A fool who fails to see that this is an election year and the line "we will track down every boogeyman on this planet" is the only thing the republican party has going for it at this time.

The logical part of your brain, (the little part that's still left that can think for itself) had already crossreferenced Saddam against all of the other concerns on this planet, and well, gee, you did seem to have lots of time to go to Borders, pick up some useless CDs and give full descriptions of them on this website, didn't you?

 

[Notastitchtowear]

Re: Suzanna bin Laden again

> Not suddently. We've been attacking him and sweating him all thru those
> ten years. But America decided ten years ago, after removing him from
> Kuwait, to go the containment route you pacifists are so fond of, and it
> failed miserably.

> Was it Saddam's right to invade Kuwait? Was it Saddam's right to attempt
> to assasinate former President Bush? To lob missiles into Israel? To send
> terrorists into the Kurdish zone to assasinate their democratic leaders?
> To ignore UN orders to have his weapons inspected? To harbor psychopathic
> terrorist Abu Nidal?

Not to mention the way he treated women?!!!

> And will it be his right to get nukes and blackmail the world, thereafter
> unattackable and able to run amok throughout the region? He already rpvoed
> he desires to take over the region.

> Yes, in a few weeks time we got rid of the Taliban.

> He spoke for the people of Afghanistan?

> Who's "they"? Who were the assasins?

> THE NY TIMES:
> =====
> KABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. 6 — With President Hamid Karzai safely back in
> the Afghan capital and making light of the attempt on his life, government
> officials said today that preliminary investigations showed that the
> failed assassination attempt in Kandahar and the car bombing in Kabul on
> Thursday appeared to have been the work of the Taliban, Al Qaeda or
> associated groups.
> =====

> So yes, THEY, the f***ing Taliban freaks and their arab terrorist freak
> friends, are trying to screw up the interim government, an interim
> government
> which is trying to give Afghans a better country. It's called a war,
> Suzanne, one side wants to kill the other. Can you follow it? The Taliban
> and al Quaeda and their lovers want the Taliban back in power. Apparently
> you do too, or else why do you ALWAYS say everything a Taliban freak would
> love to hear you say? You always do, Suzanne, you never fail on that.

> What a surprise, Suzanne is coming to the defense of fascist Saddam. LOL

 

[shocked]

oh dear god, NOT the WOMEN???

 

[Notastitchtowear]

Re: oh I get it, sarcasm! Very refreshing.

 

[Fox in the Snow]

Is Saddam really dangerous? You bet he is...

> You know, the interesting thing about you is not that you completely try
> to imagine what i'm saying, or that you even live under a rock, but I
> don't recall you ONCE in all of this time, at least before Bush II brought
> it up, saying, "OUR LIVES ARE THREATENED AS LONG AS SADDAM HUSSEIN
> BREATHES!"

> And do you know why? Because our lives aren't threatened. You're just some
> fool who believes whatever he is told without question. A fool who fails
> to see that this is an election year and the line "we will track down
> every boogeyman on this planet" is the only thing the republican
> party has going for it at this time.

> The logical part of your brain, (the little part that's still left that
> can think for itself) had already crossreferenced Saddam against all of
> the other concerns on this planet, and well, gee, you did seem to have
> lots of time to go to Borders, pick up some useless CDs and give full
> descriptions of them on this website, didn't you?

Hi, Suzanne, I understand your points... Yet, IMHO, Saddam could be potentially very dangerous indeed... First of all, I just don't want to take any chances after September 11 3000+ dead!

Before WTC tragedy, a lot of people of the left-wing political spector would say that Israel must be blamed for everything wrong going there at the Middle East... If only Israel's Sharon government would disappear, and Palestinians would be totally satisfied, everything would be all right, those peoples would say! Then September 11 came, and world would see that Bin Laden and significant portion of Islamic intellectual elite he represented, are full of resentment for America and Western civilization with irrational hatred of dogmatic Islamic fanatics. Bin Laden didn't care about Israeli alleged misdeeds or about Palestinian aspirations... Bin Laden mentioned "our brothers at Palestine" only once at his hour-long madcap speech broadcasted on CNN, yet he was full of hatred toward America in particular and Christianity in general... America realized the danger of Islamic fundamentalism... Also America realized, that Israelis and Palestinians would be able to reach any kind of lasting peace, only if terror-spreading Islamic terrorists like Palestinian Hamas would be surgically removed from the Middle East political map... And therefore secular Palestinian leaders of the future would be unafraid of assassinations by Hamas or Al Quaeda and therefore could afford to be reasonable and reach at least some semblance of peace with the Israeli Jews...

Now it is proven that Saddam Hussein was involved at September 11 attacks planning... As Laughing Oaf mentioned, Saddam harbored various Al Quaeda and Palestinian terrorists like late Abu Nidal, he fed and trained them... That's proven... Secondly, at Prague, the capital of Czech Republic, meeting between Iraqi intellegence officer and some of the future hijackers was documented by Czechs... Thirdly, Saddam stockpiled a huge quantities of Russian-made chemical weapons and blocked international observers from inspecting those stocks... It's proven... Yes, I agree, Saddam is unable to nuke America right now, but he employes quite a few advanced weaponry specialists from the former Eastern Block and CIA reports certified that he would possess nuclear weapons in NEAR FUTURE!!! Sorry, Suzanne, but I don't want to wait for Saddam to come to his senses, he is egomaniac and this guy would push a button, if he would ever get a chance...

Remember Doctor Strangelove Kubrick's movie... Think about Saddam like that semi-crazy semi-inept Russian leader Dimitry... Saddam IS A MADMAN... Proof? Well, Saddam chose to start 10-year-long unprovoked, oil-grabbing war on his Muslim neighbour Iran, he invaded Kuwait just on his whim, he sent bombs on the heads of civilian Israelis at 1992, he gassed his own Kurds, he blackmailed his Arab neighbours all the time, and finally, he promised to obliterate Israel from the face of the Earth, and his threats are very credible, if one would remember his previous history of reskless military adventurism...

Now Saddam is supported by Al Quaeda, he has plenty of oil money... He does not care if his own peoples are starving, cause he would use oil money designated to save hungry Iraquis for the nuclear and chemical weaponry development... Moreover, relative success of Al Quaeda at WTC would further radicalize Saddam and give him some wrong ideas... So, I guess here I'm more with Laughing Oaf, let's neutralize Saddam before he would cause some major mischieves... The sooner, the better.. This guy is able to nuke 4 mln Israelis or send a missile to America... if given an opportunity.. So let's get rid of Saddam first... Sometimes the best defence is in attack...

Cheers, again, it is just IMHO...

 

[suzanne]

ask yourself why he would give two shits about us over anyone else

> Hi, Suzanne, I understand your points... Yet, IMHO, Saddam could be
> potentially very dangerous indeed... First of all, I just don't want to
> take any chances after September 11 3000+ dead!

> Before WTC tragedy, a lot of people of the left-wing political spector
> would say that Israel must be blamed for everything wrong going there at
> the Middle East... If only Israel's Sharon government would disappear, and
> Palestinians would be totally satisfied, everything would be all right,
> those peoples would say! Then September 11 came, and world would see that
> Bin Laden and significant portion of Islamic intellectual elite he
> represented, are full of resentment for America and Western civilization
> with irrational hatred of dogmatic Islamic fanatics. Bin Laden didn't care
> about Israeli alleged misdeeds or about Palestinian aspirations... Bin
> Laden mentioned "our brothers at Palestine" only once at his
> hour-long madcap speech broadcasted on CNN, yet he was full of hatred
> toward America in particular and Christianity in general... America
> realized the danger of Islamic fundamentalism... Also America realized,
> that Israelis and Palestinians would be able to reach any kind of lasting
> peace, only if terror-spreading Islamic terrorists like Palestinian Hamas
> would be surgically removed from the Middle East political map... And
> therefore secular Palestinian leaders of the future would be unafraid of
> assassinations by Hamas or Al Quaeda and therefore could afford to be
> reasonable and reach at least some semblance of peace with the Israeli
> Jews...

> Now it is proven that Saddam Hussein was involved at September 11 attacks
> planning... As Laughing Oaf mentioned, Saddam harbored various Al Quaeda
> and Palestinian terrorists like late Abu Nidal, he fed and trained them...
> That's proven... Secondly, at Prague, the capital of Czech Republic,
> meeting between Iraqi intellegence officer and some of the future
> hijackers was documented by Czechs... Thirdly, Saddam stockpiled a huge
> quantities of Russian-made chemical weapons and blocked international
> observers from inspecting those stocks... It's proven... Yes, I agree,
> Saddam is unable to nuke America right now, but he employes quite a few
> advanced weaponry specialists from the former Eastern Block and CIA
> reports certified that he would possess nuclear weapons in NEAR FUTURE!!!
> Sorry, Suzanne, but I don't want to wait for Saddam to come to his senses,
> he is egomaniac and this guy would push a button, if he would ever get a
> chance...

> Remember Doctor Strangelove Kubrick's movie... Think about Saddam like
> that semi-crazy semi-inept Russian leader Dimitry... Saddam IS A MADMAN...
> Proof? Well, Saddam chose to start 10-year-long unprovoked, oil-grabbing
> war on his Muslim neighbour Iran, he invaded Kuwait just on his whim, he
> sent bombs on the heads of civilian Israelis at 1992, he gassed his own
> Kurds, he blackmailed his Arab neighbours all the time, and finally, he
> promised to obliterate Israel from the face of the Earth, and his threats
> are very credible, if one would remember his previous history of reskless
> military adventurism...

> Now Saddam is supported by Al Quaeda, he has plenty of oil money... He
> does not care if his own peoples are starving, cause he would use oil
> money designated to save hungry Iraquis for the nuclear and chemical
> weaponry development... Moreover, relative success of Al Quaeda at WTC
> would further radicalize Saddam and give him some wrong ideas... So, I
> guess here I'm more with Laughing Oaf, let's neutralize Saddam before he
> would cause some major mischieves... The sooner, the better.. This guy is
> able to nuke 4 mln Israelis or send a missile to America... if given an
> opportunity.. So let's get rid of Saddam first... Sometimes the best
> defence is in attack...

do you know why iraqis are starving? because of US embargos. where do you think the food that they eat comes from? I know its orginally biblical land, but we're past the part of manna falling from the sky.

Do you know why israelies are hated? because that was originally palestinian land they are sitting on.

and look at the US. we have many people starving and homeless but we spend all of our money sending our troops to places the average person on the street doesn't know or care about.

> Cheers, again, it is just IMHO...

 

[Fox in the Snow]

Re: ask yourself why he would give two shits about us over anyone else

> do you know why iraqis are starving? because of US embargos. where do you
> think the food that they eat comes from? I know its orginally biblical
> land, but we're past the part of manna falling from the sky.
You don't know that Saddam using oil money for weapons, it was Saddam choice to let his people go starving, he has sufficient funds to keep Iraquis from starvation!!!

> Do you know why israelies are hated? because that was originally
> palestinian land they are sitting on.
Question, Suzanne, do you think that Israel HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST? If yes, I guess I had overestimated your intelligence in the past, sorry for being rude...
Jews (especially Sephardic) were historically ALWAYS a part of the Middle East population quilt, Jews were always present at "Palestine", they were always around 50% of Jerusalem population, they are the same part of the Middle East, as German-Americans are part of Texas...
I'm sure Jews and Arabs would co-exist at Israel / Palestine, if not Islamic fundamentalism...
> and look at the US. we have many people starving and homeless but we spend
> all of our money sending our troops to places the average person on the
> street doesn't know or care about.
well, if Saddam would launch nuclear strike on US soil, "average person on the street" would damn well care, for sure!!!

 

[suzanne]

Re: ask yourself why he would give two shits about us over anyone else

> You don't know that Saddam using oil money for weapons, it was Saddam
> choice to let his people go starving, he has sufficient funds to keep
> Iraquis from starvation!!!

> Question, Suzanne, do you think that Israel HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST? If yes,
> I guess I had overestimated your intelligence in the past, sorry for being
> rude...

I don't care if you think i'm Einstein or a contestant from Temptation Island.

> Jews (especially Sephardic) were historically ALWAYS a part of the Middle
> East population quilt, Jews were always present at "Palestine",
> they were always around 50% of Jerusalem population, they are the same
> part of the Middle East, as German-Americans are part of Texas...
> I'm sure Jews and Arabs would co-exist at Israel / Palestine, if not
> Islamic fundamentalism...

but don't you see? they DON'T co-exist. the palestians were rounded up and put in shanty towns and if you feel like that's a good living condition for anyone, well i'm sorry.

> well, if Saddam would launch nuclear strike on US soil, "average
> person on the street" would damn well care, for sure!!!

he's had several years to do it, and the best they come up with is box cutters.

 

[Fox in the Snow]

Re: ask yourself why he would give two shits about us over anyone else

> I don't care if you think i'm Einstein or a contestant from Temptation
> Island.
You ARE intelligent, that's why I asked you this question...
> but don't you see? they DON'T co-exist. the palestians were rounded up and
> put in shanty towns and if you feel like that's a good living condition
> for anyone, well i'm sorry.
First, there are 1 million plus Arabs (Palestinians) who are Israeli citizens, and they have all the rights and benefits (including right to vote and demonstrate and use juducial system) as Jewish Israeli citizens... The only unequality is, Arabs can not serve at Israeli Army, but again it is done out of respect of Islam, so they, Israeli Arabs would not potentially face their co-religionists... Of course, Israeli Arabs have much more freedoms under democrqacy, then Arabs at Arab countries...
Secondly, Israelis accepted around half million Jewish refugees from Arab countries, why Arabs can not accept Palestinian refugees...
Thirdly, Israeli Barak government wanted to give Palestinians their state at West Bank and Gaza, with Eastern Jerusalem as it's capital, but Palestinians rejected all Israeli Labour party offers, Arafat was so determined to fight Israelis, he even didn't suggest a counter-offer, he just flatly rejected Israeli peace overtures... That's the reality, Suzanne, and soorry if I was too excited...
> he's had several years to do it, and the best they come up with is box
> cutters.
Funny, but I'm afraid even such an idiot, as Saddam could be potentially dangerous, if equipped with the best technology (be it conventional or nuclear) his oil money can buy...

 

[Mrs Morley]

Interested in Govt, try www.vote.com

Dick Morris is a sleeze but its a good site.

 

[Jamie]

Sorry to Step In On a Two Person Debate, But...

I think another point that gets terrifically glossed over by the government, military, intelligence, media, et al, is the question of Saddam's successor. An Iraqi or a puppet figurehead for whatever coalition takes him out? Because that is working SO well in Afghanistan. Saddam is a terrible violator of human rights and a brute, sure. But I don't think we're adequately weighing the consequences of a long-term invasion (occupation?) of Iraq. Not only that, but he's little more than a bullying street thug. What if his successor has half a brain and is less willing to stay under the thumb of embargoes? You can argue "better the devil you know," but I'd like to see more solid evidence that he's tied in with Mr. bin Laden in the first place and proof that he poses a viable nuclear threat. As far as I'm concerned, he sounds like a schoolyard punk with a piece of unrefined uranium tied to a pot-pie tin and a lawnmower engine!

Cheers,

Jamei

 

[:0D]

Re: Is Saddam really dangerous? Not when he is on the Viagra

 

[honeyinmytea]

Re: I'll think about this tomorrow.

> Saddam could be
> potentially very dangerous indeed

I can't do anything about this situation, so I live for today and let tomorrow just be, ... tomorrow.

 

[LoafingOaf]

Re: Suzanna bin Laden again

> You know, the interesting thing about you is not that you completely try
> to imagine what i'm saying, or that you even live under a rock, but I
> don't recall you ONCE in all of this time, at least before Bush II brought
> it up, saying, "OUR LIVES ARE THREATENED AS LONG AS SADDAM HUSSEIN
> BREATHES!"

You don't read all my messages. LAst spring I was discussing the Atlantic Monthly's big cover story, written by the author of Black HAwk Down, about Saddam Hussein, and quotes from Iraqis and how they feel...which I pointed out influenced my feelings greatly and set things straight in my mind... and someone here wanted it snail mailed to him. A few months ago I posted that Bush would be guilty of negligent breach of duty if Saddam was still in power next year. I've posted quite a bit about Iraq, and the Kurds, over the past two years, now that I think of it. Like about the reports that Saddam was funding the Hamas suicide bombers. someone blows up a pizza parlor, their family gets a check from Saddam. But oh, God forbid anyone intervene on that! And yes I do listen to what my government has to say about how imminent the threat is, because there are some, even many, good people in that government. I know that's a foreign concept to you. I take it seriously when my government says something in deadly serious tone (because they have all those sattelites and so forth, which I don't think you do), and then I look into it via journalists I trust to decide what's what, if it's on the up and up. Because, you see, blindly disbelieving everything your government tells you is just as dumb as blindly believing everything.

> And do you know why? Because our lives aren't threatened. You're just some
> fool who believes whatever he is told without question.

No, you're the fool who right after 9/11/01 came on here and spewed your hatred about a "nation of slackers" mourning their dead, and when I asked you why you hate even peoplen uniting to mourn murdered people, government and policies aside, you didn't care. I have a near photographic memory. Miss Bought Into The Caspian Sea Oil Conspiracy Theory. Miss Believes Everything Noam Chomsky Writes. Miss Been Proven Wrong About Everything You've Ever Posted On Politics.

And you can keep on pretending, but meanwhile, and with shockingly low caualities, America changed the course of a country's history in Afghnistan, as one recent essayist put it. And oh yes, you were so concerned about mass starvations in Afghanistan when Noam told ya America was gonna cause that.
But the facts are, the starvations were being caused by the Taliban, and
America prevented that humanitarian crisis, and today, after the bombing, Afghanistan's population is booming as people move back. Couldn't have been more off on that one, could ya, and yet you still come on here claiming *you're* the one who can see through all the lies!

That I believe Saddam is a sick madman the world should not abide is just basic common sense.

>A fool who fails
> to see that this is an election year and the line "we will track down
> every boogeyman on this planet" is the only thing the republican
> party has going for it at this time.

That the Republicans try and take political advantage of things is no surprise.
That really doesn't mean much to me, though, as to the issue of whether or not taking Saddam out would be good or bad.

> The logical part of your brain, (the little part that's still left that
> can think for itself) had already crossreferenced Saddam against all of
> the other concerns on this planet, and well, gee, you did seem to have
> lots of time to go to Borders, pick up some useless CDs and give full
> descriptions of them on this website, didn't you?

I'm sorry if you don't like someone noticing the way you've rooted for terrorists and fascists for a full year now, and bought into every conspiracy theory that appeals to your kooky ideology. Yeah, keep on hoping your beloved Taliban assasinates Karzai, that would be GREAT wouldn't it?

 

[LoafingOaf]

Re: Is Saddam really dangerous? You bet he is...

> Now it is proven that Saddam Hussein was involved at September 11 attacks
> planning...

Actually, it's in doubt whether Saddam was involved in 9/11 specifically, but I find the idea that Saddam must be tied to that attack as a prerequisite to action as ridiculous. William Safire and others claim the stories
of Atta and the IRaqi agent are to be believed, but I have no way of knowing.
If bin Laden had any dealings with Saddam, it would I suppose be because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but it's doubtful bin Laden ever felt much affection (past tense as I'm of the view he's probably dead) for Saddam, as Saddam is not on common religious ground. But yes, Saddam has been and is involved in terrorism.

>As Laughing Oaf mentioned, Saddam harbored various Al Quaeda
> and Palestinian terrorists like late Abu Nidal, he fed and trained them...
> That's proven... Secondly, at Prague, the capital of Czech Republic,
> meeting between Iraqi intellegence officer and some of the future
> hijackers was documented by Czechs... Thirdly, Saddam stockpiled a huge
> quantities of Russian-made chemical weapons and blocked international
> observers from inspecting those stocks... It's proven... Yes, I agree,
> Saddam is unable to nuke America right now, but he employes quite a few
> advanced weaponry specialists from the former Eastern Block and CIA
> reports certified that he would possess nuclear weapons in NEAR FUTURE!!!
> Sorry, Suzanne, but I don't want to wait for Saddam to come to his senses,
> he is egomaniac and this guy would push a button, if he would ever get a
> chance...

> Remember Doctor Strangelove Kubrick's movie... Think about Saddam like
> that semi-crazy semi-inept Russian leader Dimitry... Saddam IS A MADMAN...
> Proof? Well, Saddam chose to start 10-year-long unprovoked, oil-grabbing
> war on his Muslim neighbour Iran, he invaded Kuwait just on his whim, he
> sent bombs on the heads of civilian Israelis at 1992, he gassed his own
> Kurds, he blackmailed his Arab neighbours all the time, and finally, he
> promised to obliterate Israel from the face of the Earth, and his threats
> are very credible, if one would remember his previous history of reskless
> military adventurism...

> Now Saddam is supported by Al Quaeda, he has plenty of oil money... He
> does not care if his own peoples are starving, cause he would use oil
> money designated to save hungry Iraquis for the nuclear and chemical
> weaponry development... Moreover, relative success of Al Quaeda at WTC
> would further radicalize Saddam and give him some wrong ideas... So, I
> guess here I'm more with Laughing Oaf, let's neutralize Saddam before he
> would cause some major mischieves... The sooner, the better.. This guy is
> able to nuke 4 mln Israelis or send a missile to America... if given an
> opportunity.. So let's get rid of Saddam first... Sometimes the best
> defence is in attack...

> Cheers, again, it is just IMHO...

 

[LoafingOaf]

Re: ask yourself why he would give two shits about us over anyone else

>we spend
> all of our money sending our troops to places the average person on the
> street doesn't know or care about.

I don't know many average Americans who don't both know and care about Afghanistan, and are glad we went there. And I see that a hefty majority of average Americans want Saddam dealt with once and for all, one way or another.