Supreme responds to TTY statement by Morrissey

Regarding Supreme/Morrissey - Supreme / Facebook

In July of 2015 Supreme approached Morrissey to participate in one of it's poster and T-Shirt campaigns. The scope of the project was explained in full detail to Morrissey, including the intended look, the setting, the photographer, as well as the items that would be produced: a T-Shirt and a poster. An agreement was entered which named the photographer as Terry Richardson, who has shot many of Supreme's campaigns, and whom Morrissey has worked with before. Images of past campaigns were sent to Morrissey for reference so that the intended result was clear. Morrissey required a substantial fee for his participation in this project which Supreme paid up front and in full. The photo shoot lasted two hours and Morrissey was free to do, and pose as he wished. The agreement prohibits Morrissey from "unreasonably" withholding approval of the use of photographs taken at the photo shoot.

After offering Morrissey several options of images from the shoot, Morrissey rejected them all with no explanation. Instead, Morrissey insisted on using a photo that he had taken of himself wearing a Supreme T-shirt for the campaign. This image was later made public on Instagram by his nephew.

Unable to use this image Supreme repeatedly offered Morrissey three very reasonable options as a remedy to the impasse: 1) To do an entire re-shoot at Supreme's sole expense, 2) To select one of the many options from the shoot with Terry Richardson that were offered to Morrissey, 3) To return the money that was paid to Morrissey by Supreme.

Morrissey repeatedly ignored all three options with no reason given as to why. He then proceeded to assert a sudden and ridiculous claim that because Supreme had used the White Castle logo on a group of products in the past, and because he is a known vegetarian, that the agreement was supposedly terminated.

In light of this ploy, Supreme once again requested the return of the money it had paid to Morrissey so that both parties could walk away from the project. However, he refused.

After many attempts to solve this problem, and left with no other viable options, Supreme proceeded to publish these images as per it's agreement with Morrissey.


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' Morrissey certainly has profited from "western culture", so why are you thumbing your nose at it, '

My 'thumbing' (if you read what I was replying to) was this line from 'CL' post # 103 " U2 but I have to give them credit for showing solidarity with other rock musicians and with western culture in general. '

Should we ? 'credit'? for 'showing solidarity' with 'western culture' ? why / what for? Is that something to be proud of? Who thinks Americas hands are clean in the scheme of things as they are ? Really?

Madonna and U2 = pop pap.

'...and ordinary people who follow ordinary rules are not worth discussing' - Morrissey.

Someone once sang "America is not the world." It was a really nice tune, sadly underrated. You should listen to it next time you think Paris, U2, and western culture mean USA. Our hands are not clean so it's okay for terrorists to murder people seeing a rock show? Really is that what you mean?

btw, western culture began in Ancient Greece.

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but that photochopping is magnifique!

I meant the poor quality photos taken for the skateboarding company, but maybe they should have gone with a chopped Eminem album cover.
 
no,that's not what I mean at all.

'America' is as much to blame for the so called 'civilized' world as we know it today. And Post-Paris Attacks was probably one of the safest places to be. Especially if you have a little cash to spare for security.

What did you mean then? I'm thick so you have to explain.

I have a friend in Paris. She did not feel that she was in one of the safest places to be. She didn't want to leave her apartment to go to work. Riding the train was terrifying. I'm sure Bono had extra security but he probably didn't feel safe.

The thing is your argument that the War On Terror creates terrorists... I think that's what you meant to say... is true, but these attacks were not against military targets. They were aimed at people having dinner, people listening to music, and other targets that all represent, yes, western culture. It's easy to blame the US and say it's all because of "blood for oil" and, yes, there are people making billions off of the War On Terror. But the truth is religion is the real problem and it existed long before the US.
 
What did you mean then? I'm thick so you have to explain.

I have a friend in Paris. She did not feel that she was in one of the safest places to be. She didn't want to leave her apartment to go to work. Riding the train was terrifying. I'm sure Bono had extra security but he probably didn't feel safe.

The thing is your argument that the War On Terror creates terrorists... I think that's what you meant to say... is true, but these attacks were not against military targets. They were aimed at people having dinner, people listening to music, and other targets that all represent, yes, western culture. It's easy to blame the US and say it's all because of "blood for oil" and, yes, there are people making billions off of the War On Terror. But the truth is religion is the real problem and it existed long before the US.

Girth measurement por favor?
 
But she was safe. Aimed at people = These are the rules of war. How many American drones and wars 'accidentally' kill innocent people? Yes, humans and their belief systems are a problem.

You keep wanting to bring up "American" drones, and now you're saying something about the "rules of war" which actually preclude attacks on civilians. I guess if my friend had been murdered she would have deserved it. I mean, she is a music teacher who has dedicated a good portion of her life to working with children, but you're probably right. In her spare time she might be making "American drones" out of scrap metal. She is very clever but I never saw what she was really capable of until now. Thanks for helping me see the light. Allahu Akbar.
 
Hey Steve,

I know tickets sales were lagging everywhere outside the USA the past couple years and refusing to tour Canada, Mexico, and the UK was a great idea, but I have an idea for a one off single. You can write a simple song called "American Drones" and even include the line "if the American Drone doesn't bomb you" (they won't recognize the line from another song) ha ha. All Brits, Euro Trash, South Americans, and Serbs will love it and it would be a quick money maker while they hope and dream for a tour in five years.

P.S.-The Louis Vuitton shirts are on sale at Macy's at the Glendale Galleria!

Brennan Huffenmeyer
Music Publishing Specialist II, Senior
The Morrissey Marketing Group (TMMG) ltd, llc inc., Sherman Oaks-Beverly Hills-Malibu
 
I tried to simplify it. But by this last reply of yours... you still don't see what I'm saying. This is my last post to this botched conversation.

Thank you for trying to simplify it for me. That is very kind. I do think I see exactly what you're saying and the implications of what you're saying, although I'm still working out "Aimed at people = These are the rules of war."
This sentence," How many American drones and wars 'accidentally' kill innocent people?" seems to imply that acts of terror in Paris are not a concern because "America" deserves it

I don't agree with using autonomous weapons but that doesn't mean people attending a rock concert should be murdered.
 
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An agreement was made. He didn't like the outcome. Return the money? Can't wait to read here how he deserves to keep it. The possibilities are mind bending. Wouldn't a reasonable person do at least a cursory search of Supreme's past marketing efforts? Morrissey's ability to attempt to distance himself from bad decisions is Hudini like. Just don't look at the man behind the curtain...The Wizard of Moz.

The curtain has fallen to the stage. And BrummieBoy was the boy who long ago said that the Emperor Morrissey has no clothes. Case closed. Morrissey is a troll. Always was. A clever one but no Loki, just loco.
 
I'm not quite sure what you're saying. I am saying, from an advertising perspective, there are no mistakes. The public "dispute" is planned for mass exposure. Morrissey enjoys purposely playing the villain. People don't get it and I'm surprised that they don't. Morrissey has been an expert at getting people's attention in a unique way since 1984. He's a genius. Everyone wins here. Supreme gets exposure, Morrissey gets exposure. Supreme gets paid, Morrissey gets paid and laugh at us with our "outrage" all the way to the bank. Bottom line, I wouldn't mind getting a Supreme shirt, I doubt I will, but somebody will and that's the point. Everyone wins and Morrissey's credibility is fully intact AS ALWAYS. By the way, been listening to Ringleaders, Years of Refusal and World Peace and I have to say, these are great f***ing albums. I mean, amazing. I am really impressed.

Morrissey has been an expert Fact Time Attention Whore since 1984. He's a Troll.

As are you, but you are almost as obvious troll as Morrissey.
His 'credibility' is now only in the eyes of other minor trolls and fans. Like you.
f*** Morrissey.
oh-wait! He's more than capable of f***ing himself and his career with the butt-plug of his ego
This is a porn site and the fetish is Career Self-Immolation
When Morrissey croaks he will be forgotten before his flesh is cold
And he richly deserves such a fate having wasted his life chasing Fame and, hilriously, failing to achieve it.
There is a God!

LOL!

BB
 
o.k,one more time.

'"Aimed at people = These are the rules of war." In your post you were concerned with innocent people. But no one is 'innocent' in the eyes of the terrorist. By 'rules' I mean 'ways' of war. To mean.. that in war all people innocent or not can become victims/targets.


'seems to imply that acts of terror in Paris are not a concern because "America" deserves it' No,sorry that's not what I was saying at all.

What I'm saying (again) is that 'America' and 'western culture' the supposed 'good guys' are not so innocent and free of blood on their own hands. So why would anyone give 'credit' to a band for showing 'solidarity' with it? When 'western culture/America' has it's own ways of getting things done that are just as violent and insane as ISIS?

'I don't agree with using autonomous weapons but that doesn't mean people attending a rock concert should be murdered. ' yes,I agree.

You just talk in circles. You say you don't mean something and then you state the same thing a different way. Western culture is not "America" no matter how many times you repeat it.

Your lack of feeling for innocent people is despicable. I don't know whether to view your concern for the victims of "American drones" as hypocrisy, or an idiotic ploy to back up your initial statements which I have carefully explained are beyond ignorant. You're willfully stupid.
 
You did. This is one instance, and you're doing exactly what I said you were. Again.

give it a break, no she obviously is not. she is stating that american is part of western culture unlike islam culture which is backwards and not part of western culture.
they behead gays and treat women as chattel in islam ffs practices unheard of in western civilization.
 
I'm not quite sure what you're saying. I am saying, from an advertising perspective, there are no mistakes. The public "dispute" is planned for mass exposure. Morrissey enjoys purposely playing the villain. People don't get it and I'm surprised that they don't. Morrissey has been an expert at getting people's attention in a unique way since 1984. He's a genius. Everyone wins here. Supreme gets exposure, Morrissey gets exposure. Supreme gets paid, Morrissey gets paid and laugh at us with our "outrage" all the way to the bank. Bottom line, I wouldn't mind getting a Supreme shirt, I doubt I will, but somebody will and that's the point. Everyone wins and Morrissey's credibility is fully intact AS ALWAYS. By the way, been listening to Ringleaders, Years of Refusal and World Peace and I have to say, these are great f***ing albums. I mean, amazing. I am really impressed.

I see your point about planning drama like this as a marketing campaign. But I question Morrissey actually planning this. If this was the case, wouldn't that just make morrissey everything he has ever complained about when it concern a manufacture image (like Madonna, Sheeran, etc). If this were truly what he did, he is not the image of the underdog fighting the system as it were, he is the system.

But on the other hand, if he did not plan this drama, what would explain the association with supreme in the first place, other than to play inside the system.

But then further since many things involving business dealing with morrissey end up in the drama, is he just bumbling idiot business wise and can't keep his shit straight or he is a perfect player of the system fooling the consumer just like the likes of the etc artists he detests.
 
But she was safe. Aimed at people = These are the rules of war. How many American drones and wars 'accidentally' kill innocent people? Yes, humans and their belief systems are a problem.

dont be dense. the drones are used because muslims ask us to since they cant govern themselves. if we were to sit back and do nothing we would be accused of sitting back. meanwhile they cant seem to do anything on their own outside of promoting their stupid religion which is anti women and anti huma LOL. if they grab hold of moz, thatll be end of the sam postingsl for sure.
 
I see your point about planning drama like this as a marketing campaign. But I question Morrissey actually planning this. If this was the case, wouldn't that just make morrissey everything he has ever complained about when it concern a manufacture image (like Madonna, Sheeran, etc). If this were truly what he did, he is not the image of the underdog fighting the system as it were, he is the system.

But on the other hand, if he did not plan this drama, what would explain the association with supreme in the first place, other than to play inside the system.

But then further since many things involving business dealing with morrissey end up in the drama, is he just bumbling idiot business wise and can't keep his shit straight or he is a perfect player of the system fooling the consumer just like the likes of the etc artists he detests.

I retracted this in another post. Though, be careful not to reflect YOUR perception of what Morrissey is and isn't. If someone wanted to pay you to use your image, minus the blue dots, I'd imagine you'd agree too until you found out they associate with anti-cyclists, then you might be concerned? He's definitely NOT a bumbling idiot, I think he has proven THAT over and over again. He's a very successful person and even in his "mistakes" if there are any, he succeeds holding true to his principals which is highly admirable and uncommon in modern life. Look at Brummie, the idiot, praises World Peace then calls Morrissey a fraud. Morrissey isn't a fraud, Brummie is and he/she/it/they prove it constantly. Morrissey is a human being and he acts like one, humans don't have their "shit straight", but fooling consumers? You're insane. If you're "fooled" into buying music, you're an idiot. You're adult? You have a brain? No one has a gun to your head? Then, you consume at your own risk. I find you to be a lonely person. You may have a family and all this and all that, but you seem lonely. You seem like you're not heard, perhaps in an lackluster marriage, is this true?
 
I think you may be right here. A cash grab and then oh s**t they promote meat. Pull up steaks and run. Just make sure the cash doesn't fly out of my pocket. He won't take the job but he will keep their money...please. Only KS could explain this away. I wonder if he holds the value of a dollar in the same way as he holds the value of the life of animals. If I could GIF right now it would be True Colors.

No no no no.

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"Exposure" for what, exactly? "Credibility fully in tact"? Sure, he's always going to be the former frontman of the Smiths, and he's had an incredible solo career up until Sam bought or stole photoshop. But if his goal is securing a major record deal to release new music, this theory of him doing it for "mass exposure" isn't going to make people want to sign him.

"Exposure", you know, something your band does not have (and never will). Exposure. Were you even born when The Smiths were around? What the f*** do you know about anything, you boring Millennials/XYZ/Retard generation? All you autistics seem to do is give your "opinions" even though you have zero experience with real life, oh, you're good at playing games and blogging and forums and that bullshit, but you know nothing about real life. It makes sense you fail to get Morrissey. Sam and Morrissey are making fun of you and you're too dense to see it. Of course, you're an expert at getting "signed". Do me a favor, when you accomplish something, get signed to a major label WITH an advance, THEN give us and Morrissey advice but until you do, you and the rest of your generation should just shut the f*** up. You know nothing but how to steal music, you trust-fund boring loser.
 
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