What is the saddest non-Morrissey song you've ever heard?

Kuiper

Better than Marr
Now, we all are well are and frequently point out that Mozzer is NOT a depressing, moping, suicidal, self-pitiful _insert vulgarity here_. But the fact is, despite all the humor and wit he writes with, he does write a quite a few sad songs, but with such beauty and majesty, a master of emotion he is. We've all come to terms with the fact he actually can be quite depressing despite being a very non-depressing persona (or at least I see him that way). So, moving on, what do you find to be the saddest non-Morrissey song(s) you've heard?

At the moment I am captivated in positive and negative ways by the song Cut Here by The Cure. The music isn't a downer, it could be kind of uplifting if they tried I think. But the lyrics are among the saddest I've ever read. Yes, they certainly have been very "depressing" at times. Sure, listening to a song like One Hundred Years (one of my favorite Cure songs by the way), I think, "man, this song is a real downer", but I don't start crying, I don't actually feel sad. But Cut Here is just so heartbreaking, I think it is poignant to everyone because we've all felt the same way at one point in our lives. For reference here are the lyrics and a YouTube link to see the video if you haven't heard the song before http://youtube.com/watch?v=YLfEPaA6_Aw

"so we meet again!" and i offer my hand
all dry and english slow
and you look at me and i understand
yeah it's a look i used to know
"three long years... and your favourite man...
is that any way to say hello?"
and you hold me...
like you'll never let me go

"oh c'mon and have a drink with me
sit down and talk awhile... "
"oh i wish i could... and i will!
but now i just don't have the time... "
and over my shoulder as i walk away
i see you give that look goodbye...
i still see that look in your eye...

so dizzy mr busy - too much rush to talk to billy
all the silly frilly things have to first get done
in a minute - sometime soon - maybe next time - make it june
until later... doesn't always come

it's so hard to think "it ends sometime
and this could be the last
i should really hear you sing again
and i should really watch you dance"
because it's hard to think
"i'll never get another chance to hold you...
to hold you... "

but chilly mr dilly - too much rush to talk to billy
all the tizzy fizzy idiot things must get done
in a second - just hang on - all in good time - won't be long
until later...

i should've stopped to think - i should've made the time
i could've had that drink - i could've talked awhile
i would've done it right - i would've moved us on
but i didn''t - now it''s all too late it's over... over...
and you're gone...

i miss you i miss you i miss you i miss you
i miss you i miss you so much

but how many times can i walk away
and wish "if only... "
how many times can i talk this way
and wish "if only... "
keep on making the same mistake
keep on aching the same heartbreak

i wish "if only... "
but "if only... "
is a wish too late...
 

puuk

Junior Member
Cut here is great!!! Here's mine:

There's an ocean of tears
The years before our happiness
And moving mountains into that ocean
Won't make that sadness any less
Counting the days towards our new construction
Moving mountains by compulsion
The impulse that shocks us out of our long term decision
I'm counting the days towards our love

So far apart in so many ways
Like the way five hours feels like forever
It's in our hands to make our stands
And move these continents together

He was with you like she was with me
More than a best friend, a guiding light
But lessons learned and now we have to burn
Our fires in the night

Cross the ocean of tears
Before the moving mountains disappear

The Sound - Counting the days

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y1EoJJsxjIE great song
 
If You Go Away


(Brel/Shuman)


If you go away
On this summer day
Then you might as well
Take the sun away
All the birds that flew
In the summer sky
When our love was new
And our hearts were high
And the day was young
And the night was long
And the moon stood still
For the night bird's song


If you go away


But if you stay
I'll make you a day
Like no day has been
Or will be again
We'll sail the sun
We'll ride on the rain
And talk to the trees
And worship the wind


Then if you go
I'll understand
Leave me just enough love
To fill up my hand


If you go away
As I know you will
You must tell the world
To stop turning, turning
'til you return again
If you ever do
For what good is love
Without loving you?
Can I tell you now
As you turn to go
I'll be dying slowly
'til the next hello


But if you stay
I'll make you a night
Like no night has been
Or will be again
I'll sail on your smile
I'll glide on your touch
I'll talk to your eyes
That I love so much


But if you go
I won't cry
Though the good is gone
From the word goodbye


If you go away
As I know you must
There'll be nothing left
In this world to trust
Just an empty room
Full of empty space
Like the empty look
I see on your face
And I'd have been the shadow
Of your shadow
If it might have kept me
By your side
 

hool'

looking mighty cool
my sister by tindersticks

do you remember my sister?
how many mistakes did she make with those never blinking eyes?
I couldn't work it out.
I swear she could read your mind, your life,
the depths of your soul at one glance.
maybe she was stripping herself away,
saying:

here I am, this is me
I am yours and everything about me,
everything you see...
if only you look hard enough


I never could.

our life was a pillow-fight.
we'd stand there on the quilt, our hands clenched ready.
her with her milky teeth, so late for her age,
and a stanley knife in her hand.
she sliced the tyres on my bike and I couldn't forgive her.

she went blind at the age of five.
we'd stand at the bedroom window
and she'd get me to tell her what I saw.
I'd describe the houses opposite,
the little patch of grass next to the path,
the gate with its rotten hinges forever wedged open
that dad was always going to fix.
she'd stand there quiet for a moment.
I thought she was trying to develop the images
in her own head.
then she'd say:

I can see little twinkly stars,
like christmas tree lights in faraway windows.
rings of brightly coloured rocks
floating around orange and mustard planets.
I can see huge tiger striped fishes
chasing tiny blue and yellow dashes,
all tails and fins and bubbles.


I'd look at the grey house opposite, and close the curtains.
she burned down the house when she was ten.
I was away camping with the scouts.
the fireman said she'd been smoking in bed –
the old story, I thought.
the cat and our mum died in the flames,
so dad took us to stay with our aunt in the country.
he went back to london to find us a new house.
we never saw him again.

on her thirteenth birthday she fell down the well
in our aunt's garden and broke her head.
she'd been drinking heavily.
on her recovery her sight returned,
a fluke of nature everyone said.
that's when she said she'd never blink again.
I would tell her when she stared at me, with her eyes wide and watery,
that they reminded me of the well she fell into.
she liked this, it made her laugh.

she moved in with a gym teacher when she was fifteen, all muscles he was.
he lost his job when it all came out, and couldn't get another one.
not in that kind of small town.
everybody knew everyone else's business.
my sister would hold her head high, though.
she said she was in love.
they were together for five years until one day he lost his temper.
he hit over the back of the neck with his bullworker.
she lost the use of the right side of her body.
he got three years and was out in fifteen months.
we saw him a while later,
he was coaching a non-league football team in a cornwall seaside town.
I don't think he recognized her.
my sister had put on a lot of weight from being in a chair all the time.
she'd get me to stick pins and stub out cigarettes in her right hand.
she'd laugh like mad because it didn't hurt.
her left hand was pretty good though.
we'd have arm wrestling matches,
I'd have to use both arms and she'd still beat me.

we buried her when she was 32.
me and my aunt, the vicar, and the man who dug the hole.
she said she didn't want to be cremated and wanted a cheap coffin
so the worms could get to her quickly.
she said she liked the idea of it,
though I thought it was because of what happened to the cat,
and our mum.
 

Ryan

Moderator
Moderator
Subscriber
New Order - Turn

It's a hard way to come home
You've got me on my knees
The walls are tumbling down
They're falling like the leaves

The days turned into months and years
I can't forget that you were here
I feel your presence everywhere
In the corner over there

Turn your eyes from me
It's time for me to go
Across the hills and over the sea
I want you more than you know

It's a wild world out there
And nobody gives a damn
In cold blood we don't care
And we don't want to understand

I'm sitting here alone at night
My sleepless eyes are open wide
What do you want me to say
What we had has gone away

The sky is high the road is long
Show me what I should have done
What do you want me to do
Take it all away from you

Turn your eyes from me
It's time for me to go
Across the hills and over the sea
I want you more than you know

Turn your eyes from me
It's time for me to go
Across the hills and over the sea
I want you more than you know
 

Helios

New Member
She came in through the bathroom window
protected by a silver spoon
But now she sucks her thumb and wonders
By the banks of her own lagoon

Didn't anybody tell her
Didn't anybody see
Sunday's on the phone to Monday
Tuesday's on the phone to me

She said she's always been a dancer
She worked at fifteen clubs a day
And though she thought I knew the answer
Well I knew what I could not say

And so I quit the Police Department
And got myself a steady job
And though she tried her best to help me
She could steal, but she could not rob

Didn't anybody tell her
Didn't anybody see
Sunday's on the phone to Monday
Tuesday's on the phone to me

:(
 

wutheringheights

Baby Lemonade
Now We Are Free - Lisa Gerrard

...from the film Gladiator.

Anol shalom
Anol sheh lay konnud de ne um {shaddai}
Flavum
Nom de leesh
Ham de nam um das
La um de
Flavne…

We de ze zu bu
We de sooo a ru
Un va-a pesh a lay
Un vi-I bee
Un da la pech ni sa
(Aaahh)
Un di-I lay na day
Un ma la pech a nay
Mee di nu ku

La la da pa da le na da na
Ve va da pa da le na la dumda

Anol shalom
Anol sheh ley kon-nud de ne um.
Flavum.
Flavum.
M-ai shondol-lee
Flavu… {Live on…}
Lof flesh lay
Nof ne
Nom de lis
Ham de num um dass
La um de
Flavne…
Flay
Shom de nomm
Ma-lun des
Dwondi.
Dwwoondi
Alas sharum du koos
Shaley koot-tum.
 

Stitchell

blah blah blah blah...
The Eternal- Joy Division?

That is a sad song but beautiful

I Want You - Elvis Costello & The Attractions

Oh my baby baby I love you more than I can tell
I don't think I can live without you
And I know that I never will
Oh my baby baby I want you so it scares me to death
I can't say anymore than "I love you"
Everything else is a waste of breath

I want you
You've had your fun you don't get well no more
I want you
Your fingernails go dragging down the wall
Be careful darling you might fall
I want you
I woke up and one of us was crying
I want you
You said "Young man I do believe you're dying"
I want you
If you need a second opinion as you seem to do these days
I want you
You can look in my eyes and you can count the ways
I want you
Did you mean to tell me but seem to forget
I want you
Since when were you so generous and inarticulate
I want you
It's the stupid details that my heart is breaking for
It's the way your shoulders shake and what they're shaking for
I want you
it's knowing that he knows you now after only guessing
It's the thought of him undressing you or you undressing
I want you
He tossed some tatty compliment your way
I want you
And you were fool enough to love it when he said
"I want you"
I want you
The truth can't hurt you it's just like the dark
It scares you witless
But in time you see things clear and stark
I want you
Go on and hurt me then we'll let it drop
I want you
I'm afraid I won't know where to stop
I want you
I'm not ashamed to say I cried for you
I want you
I want to know the things you did that we do too
I want you
I want to hear he pleases you more than I do
I want you
I might as well be useless for all it means to you
I want you
Did you call his name out as he held you down
I want you
Oh no my darling not with that clown
I want you
I want you
You've had your fun you don't get well no more
I want you
No-one who wants you could want you more
I want you
I want you
I want you
Every night when I go off to bed and when I wake up
I want you
I'm going to say it once again 'til I instill it
I know I'm going to feel this way until you kill it
I want you
I want you
 

drdannyace

Junior Member
does anyone remember jm being on a "top records" type
programme with kid jensen in 1984?

he picked "ill never learn" by the shangrilas and accidentally
played the wrong side of the single ...

the actual track "ill never learn" is DEVASTATING ...
ill try and upload it here shortly
 
John Lennon- Mother
Mother, you had me but I never had you
I wanted you but you didn't want me
So I, I just got to tell you
Goodbye goodbye

Father, you left me but I never left you
I needed you, you didn't need me
So I, I just got to tell you
Um goodbye goodbye

Children, don't do what I have done
I couldn't walk and I tried to run
So I, I just got to tell you
Goodbye goodbye

Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home
Mama don't go
Daddy come home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x772WxAEPGY&mode=related&search=

Music When The Lights Go Out-The Libertines
is it cruel to be kind not to speak my mind and to lie to you rather than hurt you
well ill confess all of my sins after several large gins but still ill hide from you, hide whats
inside from you
and alarm bells ring.when you say your heart still sings.when your with me, oh darling please
forgive me
but i no longer hear the music oh no no no no
and all the memories of the pubs and the clubs, and the drugs and the tubs we shared together
will stay with me forever..
but all the highs and the lows and the to's and the fro's they left me dizzy oh wont you please
forgive me

but i no longer hear the music oh no no no no

well i no longer hear the music when the lights go out love goes cold in the shades of doubt the
strange fate in my mind its all too clear, music when the lights come on the girl i thought i
knew has gone, and with her my heart it dissapeard

well i no longer hear the music oh no no no no and all the memories of the fights and the nights
and the blue lights and the kites we flew together i thought theyd fly forever

but all the highs and the lows and the to's and the fro's they left me dizzy oh wont you please
forgive me

but i no longer hear the music oh no no no no

well i no longer hear the music when the lights go out love goes cold in the shades of doubt the
strange fate in my mind its all too clear

i no longer hear the music when the lights go out the girl i thought i knew has gone and with
her my heart has disapeard
but i no longer hear the music oh no no no no and i no longer hear the music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssVrp8CBqLs
 

Kuiper

Better than Marr
I thought of one more song. It's by Arcadia, which was a side-project of Duran Duran in 1985.

Missing
And as I wander down to where you lay
The blood rushed up to meet the roses
In your hair
I thought I saw you smile
But now i don't see you anywhere
Whispering your love song in my ear
How can you touch me
When you're not really there?

Stumbling out i made my way towards the open door
Climbing fast the sun broad streaming
Laughter down into your empty gaze
Where can i find out
How i want to join in your games
I hear you calling
I hear you ... calling calling calling calling
Whispering your love song in my ear
How can you touch me?
How do you really dare
 

thewarroom

Scorpion Kicker
For me its a tie between "Nightswimming" by REM and "Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Joy Division.

Though for me no song no matter how sad will eclipse "Seasick Yet Still Docked" and "I Know it's Over."
 
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