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Hahaha the millennials are absolutely mad that they were not there and were brought up in a time when music was shite and had no meaning at all.
but it's not the truth.
It is subjective for sure. I was comparing Moz to himself. Haha those cds were not too bad. Anything to break the monotony of the long motorway. Glad I didn't play the 'Mad Max: Fury Road' soundtrack as I probably wouldn't have stopped for the toll booth.'I don't believe Moz has written good lyrics since Life Is A Pigsty, so he's not exactly faultless either.'
Compared to whom? himself? You mentioned Weller.
For example... 'Kiss me a lot' may have more meaning than 'Hand in glove' to someone who is not you or I. So in the end, it's subjective really. I mean, I wouldn't bring any of the records you mentioned on a car trip with me, could be fatal !
By the same token, boomers are absolutely mad that they don't understand where or how interesting music is distributed today, and think what plays on the FM radio in their car is the sum total of musical innovation happening today.
Just my small observation: to enjoy music an artist creates we normally superimpose it over our own contextual or sexual framework - it doesn't normally work the other way round.
In other words, I listen to a wealth of music and I'm certain the singers & writers are all shades of everything on the sexual 'spectrum' - never once has it really affected my enjoyment of the music. I can't see how knowing what gives someone else an orgasm would ever effect my brain taking someone's words and making them applicable to myself.
So does any 'truth' ever matter in the end?
Regards,
FWD.
Ditts'I don't believe Moz has written good lyrics since Life Is A Pigsty, so he's not exactly faultless either.'
Compared to whom? himself? You mentioned Weller.
For example... 'Kiss me a lot' may have more meaning than 'Hand in glove' to someone who is not you or I. So in the end, it's subjective really. I mean, I wouldn't bring any of the records you mentioned on a car trip with me, could be fatal !
Ditts
"Popular music" has always been a product. The funny thing is people believe it's some kind of a lifestyle movement until they get to a certain age. Then they realize that the new music is a product but they still think that the music they grew up with was like genuine, man! Like we wanted to change the world man. We were all brothers and sisters!
Popular music began in the 1920's when advances in technology and manufacturing made it possible for "the common people" to own a radio and sometimes even a record player. Before that you had to be a lot wealthier to own a record player. The music available was classical and opera. Someone named Caruso was a superstar. But "common people" were not interested in that. So RCA sent a man out with a recording machine and recorded hillbillies and blues singers that only had one string on their guitar and it was a piece of barbed wire they had to repurpose.
Finally there was music that the common people could relate to. But the people that got rich off of it were the same types of people that are getting rich off of music today. A few artists got their egos stroked and were given fur coats and Cadillacs, just like today.
The best thing about the Sex Pistols is that they never tried to act like they were really starting a revolution. that's sort of another story for a different time but as the philosopher David Lee Roth once said "There are two words in 'music business.' "
By the same token, boomers are absolutely mad that they don't understand where or how interesting music is distributed today, and think what plays on the FM radio in their car is the sum total of musical innovation happening today.
Just read the entire topic..... He should think himself lucky hes not a certain other famous musician / singer, who was subject 2 a monsterous witch hunt and ALMOST destroyed on this site !
And we all know who that was !
'instead of taking him seriously with his made up words.'
Aren't all words... 'made up' ?
This thread is yet more evidence that music is truly dead and buried. I cannot for the life of me get how people in 2017 can discuss music at all. That thing called music is over and was replaced by what some call music but it is of course not music. You can instead call them items of commerce.
It is used to sell and promote various commercial products but also lifestyle items and values. Hooky and JD and NO are dead without knowing it but at the graveyard they have a lot of friends.
The era when music meant something was a nice time to live and I feel so sorry for the kids these days struggling to make any sense of the time they live in. Now is not the time to be a kid and focus on childish things like music and concerts. The time we live in is all about becoming someone and copy your parents as much as you can.
There is no alternative lifestyle for the losers who cannot make it and I am glad I am not in that competition but it sure is fun to watch the competitors weep on their way home as they move like zombies through the store to buy something to eat before it is time to weep again so that they can finally fall asleep again.