Morrissey on BBC 6 Music Live 2017 (Oct. 2, 2017, Maida Vale, London) - reminder / reports

marred · Oct 3, 2017

BrummieBoy said:
I assume he's saying that the anti-Islamist candidate would have won but the voting was rigged? Look forward to other explanations. Seems a provocative thing to say....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ip-henry-bolton-jihad-1-truth-0-a7975431.html

The fact that it's considered provocative to be anti Islam is insane. Islam is a crock of shit. I must be islamaphobic. Oh no how will I live with myself?

RobLand · Oct 3, 2017

Sister I'm a Poet said:
I think he is showing real consistency with the Islamophobia.

I don't want to start an argument, but I wonder why being anti-Islam is considered to be such a bad thing. I guess what I'm saying is that you can be pro-people but anti-[any ideology here]. Like anti-Christian or anti-KKK or whatever. I would not call myself Islamaphobic, but I think I can be at least sympathetic to someone who is literally phobic (scared) of Islam (the religion, not the practitioners of it). It--along with lots of religions--is carried out or implemented in a rather scary way, especially if you're a female. Would you agree? (If not, thats fine with me

just curious.)

Maurice E Maher · Oct 3, 2017

The Times and the Telegraph have both gushed about the new songs, and given the show 4 stars.
Any more reviews out there?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/co...-cracking-new-songs-morrissey-bbc-maida-vale/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pop-review-morrissey-at-bbc-studios-maida-vale-w9-5hfcw9r33

Nikita · Oct 3, 2017

I love the "Everything I know" in "When You Open Your Legs", I melt.

BrummieBoy · Oct 3, 2017

Morrissey fans are about to give up on him – Johnny Marr, please stage an intervention

Stuart Heritage
Morrissey’s latest outburst – a conspiracy theory about anti-Muslim politician Anne Marie Waters – ought to be the final straw for right-thinking fans of his music

'We probably should have seen it coming. By yammering on about Ukip, Morrissey ensured that he made the news again. If he hadn’t, what would have been the take-home reaction to the concert? “Actor who plays Game of Thrones’ Samwell Tarly seen at a gig”? “More bad new songs from Morrissey”? Probably.

Instead, here’s another firestorm that Morrissey can propel himself along with, like when he called the Brexit result “magnificent” or when he said: “I like Nigel Farage a great deal,” or when he called Chinese people a “subspecies”. These outbursts are becoming so routine and so desperate that Morrissey is seemingly only a couple of bad decisions away from turning up to the Conservative party conference in a wedding dress.'

' the lunk-headed ravings of a professional irritant like Morrissey.'

https://www.theguardian.com/music/c...-him-johnny-marr-please-stage-an-intervention

Anonymous · Oct 3, 2017

Surface said:
That was funny - this songs called 'when you open your legs' its about cycling

vegan.cro · Oct 3, 2017

BrummieBoy said:
Morrissey fans are about to give up on him – Johnny Marr, please stage an intervention

Stuart Heritage
Morrissey’s latest outburst – a conspiracy theory about anti-Muslim politician Anne Marie Waters – ought to be the final straw for right-thinking fans of his music

'We probably should have seen it coming. By yammering on about Ukip, Morrissey ensured that he made the news again. If he hadn’t, what would have been the take-home reaction to the concert? “Actor who plays Game of Thrones’ Samwell Tarly seen at a gig”? “More bad new songs from Morrissey”? Probably.

Instead, here’s another firestorm that Morrissey can propel himself along with, like when he called the Brexit result “magnificent” or when he said: “I like Nigel Farage a great deal,” or when he called Chinese people a “subspecies”. These outbursts are becoming so routine and so desperate that Morrissey is seemingly only a couple of bad decisions away from turning up to the Conservative party conference in a wedding dress.'

' the lunk-headed ravings of a professional irritant like Morrissey.'

https://www.theguardian.com/music/c...-him-johnny-marr-please-stage-an-intervention

Jeffrey7777 · Oct 3, 2017

I haven't listened to the performance yet, but from reading all of the posts I feel...."I'm a lucky fella.....Because love grows where my Morrissey goes!!!!!"

Anonymous · Oct 3, 2017

BrummieBoy said:
Morrissey fans are about to give up on him – Johnny Marr, please stage an intervention

Stuart Heritage
Morrissey’s latest outburst – a conspiracy theory about anti-Muslim politician Anne Marie Waters – ought to be the final straw for right-thinking fans of his music

'We probably should have seen it coming. By yammering on about Ukip, Morrissey ensured that he made the news again. If he hadn’t, what would have been the take-home reaction to the concert? “Actor who plays Game of Thrones’ Samwell Tarly seen at a gig”? “More bad new songs from Morrissey”? Probably.

Instead, here’s another firestorm that Morrissey can propel himself along with, like when he called the Brexit result “magnificent” or when he said: “I like Nigel Farage a great deal,” or when he called Chinese people a “subspecies”. These outbursts are becoming so routine and so desperate that Morrissey is seemingly only a couple of bad decisions away from turning up to the Conservative party conference in a wedding dress.'

' the lunk-headed ravings of a professional irritant like Morrissey.'

https://www.theguardian.com/music/c...-him-johnny-marr-please-stage-an-intervention

Yawn...

Anonymous · Oct 3, 2017

That new guitarist sure does look like Boz...but it can't actually be Boz, because AuntyPeter said that Boz had left the band. Fact! Fact! Fact!

And Peter is never wrong about anything. Ever. Fact!

Because he is very clever. Fact!

I'm so confused. I don't know what to think anymore. Does being confused by Peter mean that I am now a racist? I once looked at an attractive woman on a bus and had impure thoughts...does that make me a racist? Also, I once nicked a Mars Bar from the local shop. I was 12. Does that make me a racist? Oh the guilt.

Of the new songs? Hmm I quite like the 'Jacky' one. 'Bed' sounded better live than recorded...but isn't that always the case? 'All the young...' could be a grower...Moz's very own 'Hey Jude'. Great fun!

I do think that Moz should just accept the thinning of time and stop attempting to tease the few strands remaining into a wonky quiff. It only collapses by the end of the first chorus anyway. Come on, Moz! Go for the 'Alma Matters' bovver boy crew cut...it looked mighty fine!

QQQ and KS...post more! You make me chuckle in these dark, dark times.

Uncleskinny · Oct 3, 2017

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...ink-morrissey-may-be-an-arse- -20171003136835

Anonymous · Oct 3, 2017

Anonymous said:
That new guitarist sure does look like Boz...but it can't actually be Boz, because AuntyPeter said that Boz had left the band. Fact! Fact! Fact!

And Peter is never wrong about anything. Ever. Fact!

Because he is very clever. Fact!

I'm so confused. I don't know what to think anymore. Does being confused by Peter mean that I am now a racist? I once looked at an attractive woman on a bus and had impure thoughts...does that make me a racist? Also, I once nicked a Mars Bar from the local shop. I was 12. Does that make me a racist? Oh the guilt.

Of the new songs? Hmm I quite like the 'Jacky' one. 'Bed' sounded better live than recorded...but isn't that always the case? 'All the young...' could be a grower...Moz's very own 'Hey Jude'. Great fun!

I do think that Moz should just accept the thinning of time and stop attempting to tease the few strands remaining into a wonky quiff. It only collapses by the end of the first chorus anyway. Come on, Moz! Go for the 'Alma Matters' bovver boy crew cut...it looked mighty fine!

QQQ and KS...post more! You make me chuckle in these dark, dark times.

plus 1 all the way. maybe the wife is Muslim, there has to be something to account for the hysterics....QED LOL, i dribble therefore I am.
i always thought the real Boz could at least strum an acoustic guitar, unlike the dude yesterday.

Yes QQQ and KS why hesitate? LOOL

The Truth Seeker · Oct 3, 2017

BrummieBoy said:
Morrissey fans are about to give up on him – Johnny Marr, please stage an intervention

Stuart Heritage
Morrissey’s latest outburst – a conspiracy theory about anti-Muslim politician Anne Marie Waters – ought to be the final straw for right-thinking fans of his music

'We probably should have seen it coming. By yammering on about Ukip, Morrissey ensured that he made the news again. If he hadn’t, what would have been the take-home reaction to the concert? “Actor who plays Game of Thrones’ Samwell Tarly seen at a gig”? “More bad new songs from Morrissey”? Probably.

Instead, here’s another firestorm that Morrissey can propel himself along with, like when he called the Brexit result “magnificent” or when he said: “I like Nigel Farage a great deal,” or when he called Chinese people a “subspecies”. These outbursts are becoming so routine and so desperate that Morrissey is seemingly only a couple of bad decisions away from turning up to the Conservative party conference in a wedding dress.'

' the lunk-headed ravings of a professional irritant like Morrissey.'

https://www.theguardian.com/music/c...-him-johnny-marr-please-stage-an-intervention

Imagine being so removed from reality like Stuart Heritage is that someone calling Brexit "magnificent" (17 million other people thought so too) and 'liking Nigel Farage a great deal' (four million people voted for his party in 2015 when he was the leader) are considered to be "outbursts".

The latest contrived "outburst" gave Morrissey some anti-establishment publicity, which he sought, and gave Stuart Heritage something to write about, so it's a bit of a symbiotic relationship at this stage.

fuckfase · Oct 3, 2017

RobLand said:
I don't want to start an argument, but I wonder why being anti-Islam is considered to be such a bad thing. I guess what I'm saying is that you can be pro-people but anti-[any ideology here]. Like anti-Christian or anti-KKK or whatever. I would not call myself Islamaphobic, but I think I can be at least sympathetic to someone who is literally phobic (scared) of Islam (the religion, not the practitioners of it). It--along with lots of religions--is carried out or implemented in a rather scary way, especially if you're a female. Would you agree? (If not, thats fine with me just curious.)

Very well said. So many sensitive Morrissey fans - I guess his entire career flew right over their heads. British culture is eroding - it's unfortunate. Multiculturalism is a contradiction to those that evangelize it: pointing out differences in all while propping up unity and equality. All cultures are not equal. Especially the ones that have no regard for basic human rights. The sensitive Islam apologists will easily target Christians because Christians won't stab, behead or blow them up. What a bunch of f%cking cowards in their defense and sensitivity around Islam... They'll display their perceived, yet misguided "virtue" by calling anyone that questions the dangers of Islamic culture "Islamaphobic." Defending Islam? Defending an ugly, bigoted, misogynous culture? Yeah. Great work, morons. May you get what your ignorance delivers, England.

Anonymous · Oct 3, 2017

Well, I AM NOT giving up on him and seeing fans accounts on instagram and twitter with hundres and some with thousands fans , they're not giving up on him either

g23 · Oct 3, 2017

Kewpie said:
If you don't live in the UK, you don't get it.

BBC has a digital TV streaming called "red button" only available within the UK.

BBC America airs Jools every Friday. And there's this thing called Youtube nowadays that is useful to get around regional boundaries.

EDIT: Oops. Wrong thread. But I was able to stream the entire performance yesterday from BBC's site. Basically, if you can't watch, wait, and you will within the day.

lutewinebemine · Oct 3, 2017

Johnny Barleycorn said:
I suppose that can only be down to Boz and the band.

There’s a YouTube clip of Johnny Marr performing How Soon Is Now? on one of the US late night talk shows. It absolutely shimmers.

When Morrissey’s band plays it you suspect they would really prefer to take it out in the car park and kick it to death.

Edit:

Awesome playing, streets above boz et al

Sister I'm a Poet · Oct 3, 2017

RobLand said:
I don't want to start an argument, but I wonder why being anti-Islam is considered to be such a bad thing. I guess what I'm saying is that you can be pro-people but anti-[any ideology here]. Like anti-Christian or anti-KKK or whatever. I would not call myself Islamaphobic, but I think I can be at least sympathetic to someone who is literally phobic (scared) of Islam (the religion, not the practitioners of it). It--along with lots of religions--is carried out or implemented in a rather scary way, especially if you're a female. Would you agree? (If not, thats fine with me just curious.)

People who are Islamophobic are not afraid of the religion, they are afraid of the practitioners of it! That's why IKIP and Trump (whom Morrissey claims to detest but who Morrissey agrees with on all things immigration) want to stop Islamic immigration. This is a bad thing because it has a devastating effect on real people's lives. The U.S. is stopping taking almost all Syrian refugees because of Islamophobia.

Do you know any Muslims? Are they scary? I have known plenty of Muslims and there wasn't any reason to be afraid of them! Just because there are Muslim fanatics doesn't mean we should punish millions of good, kind and innocent people.

BTW, in the U.S., we have just had a white man murder and injure hundreds of people, and we have had a number of such mass shootings by white men. Should I be afraid of white men? Should we limit white male immigrants?

Morrissey is dead wrong in his support for UKIP. That someone with his insight and sensitivity could be so wrong about something so important is very disappointing. It's not cute or calculated. It's guided by fear and ignorance, and he should know better.

Uncleskinny · Oct 3, 2017

Sister I'm a Poet said:
People who are Islamophobic are not afraid of the religion, they are afraid of the practitioners of it! That's why IKIP and Trump (whom Morrissey claims to detest but who Morrissey agrees with on all things immigration) want to stop Islamic immigration. This is a bad thing because it has a devastating effect on real people's lives. The U.S. is stopping taking almost all Syrian refugees because of Islamophobia.

Do you know any Muslims? Are they scary? I have known plenty of Muslims and there wasn't any reason to be afraid of them! Just because there are Muslim fanatics doesn't mean we should punish millions of good, kind and innocent people.

BTW, in the U.S., we have just had a white man murder and injure hundreds of people, and we have had a number of such mass shootings by white men. Should I be afraid of white men? Should we limit white male immigrants?

Morrissey is dead wrong in his support for IKIP. That someone with his insight and sensitivity could be so wrong about something so important is very disappointing. It's not cute or calculated. It's guided by fear and ignorance, and he should know better.

The London Tube bombers were born and raised here, so a ban on 'Muslim immigration' would have had f*** all effect, and those calling for it are uneducated buffoons.

RobLand · Oct 3, 2017

Sister I'm a Poet said:
People who are Islamophobic are not afraid of the religion, they are afraid of the practitioners of it! That's why IKIP and Trump (whom Morrissey claims to detest but who Morrissey agrees with on all things immigration) want to stop Islamic immigration. This is a bad thing because it has a devastating effect on real people's lives. The U.S. is stopping taking almost all Syrian refugees because of Islamophobia.

Do you know any Muslims? Are they scary? I have known plenty of Muslims and there wasn't any reason to be afraid of them! Just because there are Muslim fanatics doesn't mean we should punish millions of good, kind and innocent people.

BTW, in the U.S., we have just had a white man murder and injure hundreds of people, and we have had a number of such mass shootings by white men. Should I be afraid of white men? Should we limit white male immigrants?

Morrissey is dead wrong in his support for IKIP. That someone with his insight and sensitivity could be so wrong about something so important is very disappointing. It's not cute or calculated. It's guided by fear and ignorance, and he should know better.

You make a good point. Thanks for your reply.

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