Bicycle Tragedy
Banned
...For instance, take any Morrissey / Smiths LP, and re-sequence it (b-sides and outtakes are allowed provided they were recorded during or right around the same time as the chosen album) in order to make it a stronger record.
Rework a Morrissey album
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Jamie
Bluff, Ardour & Assoc.
I'll go one better and add alternate singles / B-sides. I actually published an article about this in Whyte Grrrl's late, lamented Alain Whyte fanzine, No One Can Hold a Candle to You (#4).
Maladjusted
Maladjusted
Alma Matters
Lost
Heir Apparent
Papa Jack
I Can Have Both
Ammunition
Wide to Receive
Roy's Keen
Trouble Loves Me
Satan Rejected My Soul
The Edges Are No Longer Parallel
Single #1: Alma Matters c/w He Cried and Ambitious Outsiders
Single #2: Lost OR Trouble Loves Me c/w Now I Am a Was and Sorrow Will Come in the End
Single #3: Satan Rejected My Soul c/w Roy's Keen (from Modern Rock Live) and This is Not Your Country
Cheers,
Jamie
Maladjusted
Maladjusted
Alma Matters
Lost
Heir Apparent
Papa Jack
I Can Have Both
Ammunition
Wide to Receive
Roy's Keen
Trouble Loves Me
Satan Rejected My Soul
The Edges Are No Longer Parallel
Single #1: Alma Matters c/w He Cried and Ambitious Outsiders
Single #2: Lost OR Trouble Loves Me c/w Now I Am a Was and Sorrow Will Come in the End
Single #3: Satan Rejected My Soul c/w Roy's Keen (from Modern Rock Live) and This is Not Your Country
Cheers,
Jamie
Orson Swells
Well-Known Member
Off the top of my head, something like this:
VIVA HATE
Alsation Cousin
Little Man, What Now?
Everyday is Like Sunday
Angel, Angel Down We Go Together
Late Night, Maudlin Street
Hairdresser On Fire
Breakup The Family
Suedehead
The Ordinary Boys
I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
I Know Very Well How I Got My Name
KILL UNCLE
Our Frank
King Leer
Asian Rut
Tony The Pony
Mute Witness
I've Changed My Plea To Guilty
My Love Life
Sing Your Life
Pregnant For The Last Time
Driving Your Girlfriend Home
There Is A Place In Hell For Me and My Friends
The Loop
YOUR ARSENAL
(perfect!)
VAUXHALL AND I
Now My Heart Is Full
Spring-Heeled Jim
Billy Budd
Hold Onto Your Friends
The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get
Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself?
Lifeguard Sleeping, Girlfriend Sleeping
Black-Eyed Susan
I'd Love To
Speedway
SOUTHPAW GRAMMAR
The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils
Reader Meet Author
Dagenham Dave
The Boy Racer
You Must Please Remember
Do Your Best And Don't Worry
Nobody Loves Us
The Operation
Southpaw
MALADJUSTED
Maladjusted
Alma Matters
Roy's Keen
I Can Have Both
Heir Apparent
Wide To Receive
Ammunition
Trouble Loves Me
Satan Rejected My Soul
The Edges Are No Longer Parallel
Lost
Now I Am A Was
YOU ARE THE QUARRY
America Is Not The World
Irish Blood, English Heart
Come Back To Camden
I Have Forgiven Jesus
I'm Not Sorry
Don't Make Fun of Daddy's Voice
The World Is Full of Crashing Bores
First of the Gang To Die
Let Me Kiss You
I Like You
All The Lazy Dykes
You Know I Couldn't Last
RINGLEADER OF THE TORMENTORS
I WIll See You In Far-Off Places
Dear God, Please Help You
You Have Killed Me
Christian Dior
The Youngest Was The Most Loved
Ganglord
On The Streets I Ran
Life Is A Pigsty
If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look At Me
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now
In The Future When All's Well
At Last I Am Born
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I know it isn'ton your list but if I had chance to completely rerecord a whole album it would be Kill Uncle.
Hate the production.
raincoated lover
concrete sister
You Are The Quarry
America Is Not The World
I Have Forgiven Jesus
First Of The Gang To Die
I'm Not Sorry
Let Me Kiss You
Don't Make Fun Of Daddy's Voice
I Like You
Munich Air Disaster
Mexico
Come Back To Camden
America Is Not The World
I Have Forgiven Jesus
First Of The Gang To Die
I'm Not Sorry
Let Me Kiss You
Don't Make Fun Of Daddy's Voice
I Like You
Munich Air Disaster
Mexico
Come Back To Camden
VIVA HATE
1. Alsatian Cousin
2. Hairdresser on Fire
3. Everyday is like Sunday
4. Angel Angel Down we Go Together
5. Late Night, Maudlin Street
6. Suedehead
7. Sister I'm a Poet
8. Break up the family
9. I don't mind if you forget me
10. Disappointed
11. Will Never Marry
12. Margaret on the Guillotine
Saved for b-sides:
-"I know very well...",
-"Oh well, I'll never learn",
-"Bengali..", -
-"dial-a-cliché", -
-"Little man.."
-"Ordinary Boys"
-"please help the cause against.."
1. Alsatian Cousin
2. Hairdresser on Fire
3. Everyday is like Sunday
4. Angel Angel Down we Go Together
5. Late Night, Maudlin Street
6. Suedehead
7. Sister I'm a Poet
8. Break up the family
9. I don't mind if you forget me
10. Disappointed
11. Will Never Marry
12. Margaret on the Guillotine
Saved for b-sides:
-"I know very well...",
-"Oh well, I'll never learn",
-"Bengali..", -
-"dial-a-cliché", -
-"Little man.."
-"Ordinary Boys"
-"please help the cause against.."
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Deleted member 6503
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The only albums I feel that would seriously benefit from a 'rework' would be "Maladjusted" and the god awful "Kill Uncle".
As per the above post, I would also have reworked 'Viva' by adding the actual b-sides and unreleased material from the actual 'Viva' era, and I would certainly have left the bloody artwork alone!
Other than that, i'm quite happy with the way the rest of the albums are.
As per the above post, I would also have reworked 'Viva' by adding the actual b-sides and unreleased material from the actual 'Viva' era, and I would certainly have left the bloody artwork alone!
Other than that, i'm quite happy with the way the rest of the albums are.
Bicycle Tragedy
Banned
Yeah...I agree. If it sounded like the KROQ sessions, and the tracks were rearranged a bit, I think it could have been much stronger. I know that one always gets a bad rap. But there's some very good songs there.
King Leer
Leering since '97
Cool track listing. Curious -- did you leave This is Not Your Country as a b-side because it would stand out too much as the only politicized track on the album?
Like the move of Trouble further down -- could also have been a closer. Morrissey sometimes goes with a "big" finale (Speedway, Southpaw, You Know I Couldn't Last) but I thought Satan was a nice change. But in retrospect it's kind of crazy to think it was the last album closer for 7 years!
Ambitious Outsiders and Sorrow are b-sides in the true sense of the word. Kewpie, do you think there's something...kimochi warui about these tracks?
Like the move of Trouble further down -- could also have been a closer. Morrissey sometimes goes with a "big" finale (Speedway, Southpaw, You Know I Couldn't Last) but I thought Satan was a nice change. But in retrospect it's kind of crazy to think it was the last album closer for 7 years!
Ambitious Outsiders and Sorrow are b-sides in the true sense of the word. Kewpie, do you think there's something...kimochi warui about these tracks?
here are the top 12 songs from years that the solo albums were released, according to our big poll. http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83646&page=6
theoretically the best 12 from the album (or b-side) sessions;
1) Life Is A Pigsty 8,90
2) You Have Killed Me 8,18
3) Ganglord 7,96
4) Dear God, Please Help Me 7,69
5) In The Future When All’s Well 7,66
6) I Will See You In Far Off Places 7,63
7) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now 7,63
8) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me 7,55
9) To Me You Are A Work Of Art 7,45
10) I Knew I Was Next 7,36
11) Good Looking Man About Town 7,32
12) The Youngest Was The Most Loved 7,30
1) First Of The Gang To Die 9,00
2) Irish Blood, English Heart 8,97
3) Let Me Kiss You 8,54
4) I Have Forgiven Jesus 8,48
5) The Never Played Symphonies 8,47
6) Friday Mourning 8,41
7) Come Back To Camden 8,32
8) No One Can Hold A Candle To You 8,20
9) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores 8,09
10) You Know I Couldn’t Last 8,01
11) I’m Not Sorry 7,85
12) I Like You 7,83
1) Trouble Loves Me 9,14
2) Lost 8,34
3) Maladjusted 8,33
4) Alma Matters 7,95
5) I Can Have Both 7,93
6) Satan Rejected My Soul 7,86
7) The Edges Are No Longer Parallel 7,80
8) The Operation 7,33
9) Wide To Receive 7,33
10) This Is Not Your Country 7,06
11) Now I Am A Was 7,01
12) Heir Apparent 6,94
1) Nobody Loves Us 9,01
2) Southpaw 8,44
3) Sunny 8,44
4) Whatever Happens, I Love You 8,25
5) Boxers 8,20
6) Reader Meet Author 8,13
7) The Boy Racer 8,00
8) You Must Please Remember 7,72
9) A Swallow On My Neck 7,66
10) The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils 7,65
11) Have-A-Go Merchant 7,37
12) Do Your Best and Don’t Worry 7,30
1) Now My Heart Is Full 9,55
2) Speedway 9,54
3) Why Don’t You Find Out For Yourself 9,42
4) The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 8,97
5) Spring-Heeled Jim 8,56
6) Hold On To Your Friends 8,43
7) I Am Hated For Loving 8,34
8) I’d Love To 8,33
9) Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning 8,32
10) Used To Be A Sweet Boy 7,82
11) The Lazy Sunbathers 7,77
12) Billy Budd 7,74
1) Jack The Ripper 9.26
2) Seasick, Yet Still Docked 9,10
3) The National Front Disco 9,09
4) Tomorrow 8,87
5) You’re Gonna Need Someone On Your Side 8,69
6) I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday 8,60
7) We’ll Let You Know 8,45
8) We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful 8,22
9) Glamorous Glue 8,03
10) Certain People I Know 7,85
11) You’re The One For Me Fatty 7,38
12) Let The Right One Slip In 7,27
1) I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty 8,97
2) My Love Life 8,40
3) The Loop 8,18
4) Sing Your Life 8,01
5) There’s A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends 7,81
6) I’m the End Of The Family Line 7,75
7) Our Frank 7,74
8) Mute Witness 7,70
9) Driving Your Girlfriend Home 7,67
10) Pregnant For The Last Time 7,35
11) King Leer 7,32
12) Skin Storm 7,30
1) Everyday Is Like Sunday 9,59
2) Suedehead 9,55
3) Late Night, Maudlin Street 9,24
4) Hairdresser On Fire 9,14
5) Will Never Marry 9,03
6) Sister I’m A Poet 8,92
7) Disappointed 8,81
8) Alsatian Cousin 8,41
9) I Know Very Well How I Got My Name 8,36
10) Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together 8,25
11) I Don’t Mind If You Forget Me 8,05
12) Little Man, What Now? 7,73
theoretically the best 12 from the album (or b-side) sessions;
1) Life Is A Pigsty 8,90
2) You Have Killed Me 8,18
3) Ganglord 7,96
4) Dear God, Please Help Me 7,69
5) In The Future When All’s Well 7,66
6) I Will See You In Far Off Places 7,63
7) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now 7,63
8) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me 7,55
9) To Me You Are A Work Of Art 7,45
10) I Knew I Was Next 7,36
11) Good Looking Man About Town 7,32
12) The Youngest Was The Most Loved 7,30
1) First Of The Gang To Die 9,00
2) Irish Blood, English Heart 8,97
3) Let Me Kiss You 8,54
4) I Have Forgiven Jesus 8,48
5) The Never Played Symphonies 8,47
6) Friday Mourning 8,41
7) Come Back To Camden 8,32
8) No One Can Hold A Candle To You 8,20
9) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores 8,09
10) You Know I Couldn’t Last 8,01
11) I’m Not Sorry 7,85
12) I Like You 7,83
1) Trouble Loves Me 9,14
2) Lost 8,34
3) Maladjusted 8,33
4) Alma Matters 7,95
5) I Can Have Both 7,93
6) Satan Rejected My Soul 7,86
7) The Edges Are No Longer Parallel 7,80
8) The Operation 7,33
9) Wide To Receive 7,33
10) This Is Not Your Country 7,06
11) Now I Am A Was 7,01
12) Heir Apparent 6,94
1) Nobody Loves Us 9,01
2) Southpaw 8,44
3) Sunny 8,44
4) Whatever Happens, I Love You 8,25
5) Boxers 8,20
6) Reader Meet Author 8,13
7) The Boy Racer 8,00
8) You Must Please Remember 7,72
9) A Swallow On My Neck 7,66
10) The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils 7,65
11) Have-A-Go Merchant 7,37
12) Do Your Best and Don’t Worry 7,30
1) Now My Heart Is Full 9,55
2) Speedway 9,54
3) Why Don’t You Find Out For Yourself 9,42
4) The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 8,97
5) Spring-Heeled Jim 8,56
6) Hold On To Your Friends 8,43
7) I Am Hated For Loving 8,34
8) I’d Love To 8,33
9) Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning 8,32
10) Used To Be A Sweet Boy 7,82
11) The Lazy Sunbathers 7,77
12) Billy Budd 7,74
1) Jack The Ripper 9.26
2) Seasick, Yet Still Docked 9,10
3) The National Front Disco 9,09
4) Tomorrow 8,87
5) You’re Gonna Need Someone On Your Side 8,69
6) I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday 8,60
7) We’ll Let You Know 8,45
8) We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful 8,22
9) Glamorous Glue 8,03
10) Certain People I Know 7,85
11) You’re The One For Me Fatty 7,38
12) Let The Right One Slip In 7,27
1) I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty 8,97
2) My Love Life 8,40
3) The Loop 8,18
4) Sing Your Life 8,01
5) There’s A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends 7,81
6) I’m the End Of The Family Line 7,75
7) Our Frank 7,74
8) Mute Witness 7,70
9) Driving Your Girlfriend Home 7,67
10) Pregnant For The Last Time 7,35
11) King Leer 7,32
12) Skin Storm 7,30
1) Everyday Is Like Sunday 9,59
2) Suedehead 9,55
3) Late Night, Maudlin Street 9,24
4) Hairdresser On Fire 9,14
5) Will Never Marry 9,03
6) Sister I’m A Poet 8,92
7) Disappointed 8,81
8) Alsatian Cousin 8,41
9) I Know Very Well How I Got My Name 8,36
10) Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together 8,25
11) I Don’t Mind If You Forget Me 8,05
12) Little Man, What Now? 7,73
Ringleader of the Tormentors
At Last I am Born
Dear God Please Help Me
Christian Dior
You Have Killed Me
The Father Who Must be Killed
Life is a Pigsty
To Me You are a Work of Art
In the Future When All's Well
I Knew I was Next
Sweetie Pie
Ganglord
I Will See you in Far off Places
At Last I am Born
Dear God Please Help Me
Christian Dior
You Have Killed Me
The Father Who Must be Killed
Life is a Pigsty
To Me You are a Work of Art
In the Future When All's Well
I Knew I was Next
Sweetie Pie
Ganglord
I Will See you in Far off Places
Jamie
Bluff, Ardour & Assoc.
I tried to measure relative strengths and considered some equity to the different writers. I cherish This Is Not Your Country, but it was hard to fit it in. It's interesting how this version flows: Papa Jack seems stronger sandwiched between those songs and the closing trio really end it on a triple high note.
I agree with your assessment of those tracks as B-sides. I also argue that He Cried could have made a larger impact as a B-side - there is a certain power to it that gets blended out in the existing track listing. I threw in the Modern Rock Live Roy's Keen simply to have sufficient tracks. Had I my druthers, a live version of Paint a Vulgar Picture from the tour would have been nice. The Lads really did justice to that song, imo.
Cheers,
Jamie
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